Voter Suppression

[St1ck]

5 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

From realclearpolitics:

The reason Democrats and their left-wing allies hate the Georgia election reform bill and are so adamant about passing their H.R. 1 / S 1 Corrupt Politicians Act is simple: They cheat and they want to keep cheating.

They cheated in the presidential election of 2020 and got away with it, thanks to a fearful judiciary, a complicit media, and a multimillion-dollar scheme that turned election offices in targeted cities and counties into Democratic turnout machines, and eliminated or ignored the verification requirements for people voting by mail to prove their identity and their eligibility to vote.

Now, they are furiously trying to codify their massive 2020 cheating into federal law and to stop states from imposing new safeguards against illegal voting and election irregularities.

Finding it difficult to pass their bill on the merits means they must change the subject. Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) is conducting a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday he’s calling “Jim Crow 2.0,” for the purpose of marching out the “if-you-want-to-protect-America’s-elections-from-cheating-you-are-a-racist” meme. 

Why are they doing this? Because Democrats have realized they are on the wrong side of the views of the American people in every component of their election stealing H.R. 1.

 

How do Americans feel about banning voter ID requirements? According to polling data released by the Honest Elections Project, 

[o]ver three-quarters (77%) of Americans want people to show a photo ID to cast a ballot, while only 14% oppose it . . . by huge margins both Black and Hispanic voters favor voter identification for voting: Black voters, 64%, Hispanic voters 78%.

Similarly, 64% of Black voters, 77% of Hispanics, and 76% of low-income voters reject the notion that showing an ID is a ‘burden.’

Oops.

Stronger verification of absentee and mail-in ballots? Voters in every demographic favor absentee voter ID, including the young (18-24, 64 percent) and senior voters (56 percent), black (58 percent) and Hispanic (68 percent) voters, and low-income voters (62 percent). Moreover, 72 percent of voters say it would be easy to comply with an ID law that requires absentee voters to provide their driver’s license or partial Social Security number.

Tilt. 

How about requiring absentee ballots to be received by election day? Democrats scream “voter suppression.” But only 29 percent of voters agree . . . “[t]wice as many–59%–see that as a reasonable step to improve confidence in elections.”

The vast majority of the American people know that it should be easier to vote, but harder to cheat, which is why Americans in poll after poll support the common-sense changes that are included in Georgia’s election law. 

The Democrats have, no doubt, seen the same polling data. So enter the national smear campaign to paint all election safeguards as “Jim Crow.”

Democrats invented the Jim Crow laws and used those laws to disenfranchise blacks who had been granted freedom from slavery, equal protection, and the right to vote through the Constitutional amendments adopted after the Civil War. When blacks began to vote and be elected to office in the South, as Republicans, southern Democrats were having none of that. They created and enacted the Jim Crow laws to ensure none of those newly granted rights were actually enjoyed or available to former slaves. And Democrats enforced their Jim Crow laws for more than a century wearing white robes and burning crosses and leading lynch mobs. 

Democrats know how to do Jim Crow.

Fast forward to 2021: now they want to make sure that they can continue to herd African American voters and other minorities to the polls as they see fit, deny them their right to a secret ballot, fabricate and steal ballots belonging to legitimate voters, and engage in all manner of postmodern cheating. Just as they did in 2020.

Anyone claiming that the Georgia law is “voter suppression” simply hasn’t read it.

There are multiple provisions in the new law that make it easier to vote: It expands the permissible voter verification documents to include a bank statement or utility bill with the voter’s name and residential address. No photograph is required.

Early voting days are increased, additional Saturday voting days are mandated, local election officials are allowed to increase the hours for early voting, ballot drop boxes are mandated for every county, with the number based on population, among other similar “easier to vote” provisions. 

What the Democrats actually hate about the Georgia law is that it also makes it harder to cheat. It requires those voting by mail to verify their identities with either government-issued photo ID number or bank statement or utility bill. It requires all mailed ballots (except overseas and military ballots) to be received by the election offices on Election Day. It requires absentee voters to verify that they voted a secret ballot, outside the observation of any third party. It bans ballot trafficking where political operatives and strangers collect unlimited numbers of ballots. It secures ballot drop boxes and requires chain of custody documentation. It requires that the total number of ballots issued by every election official be reported by 10 p.m. on Election Night, and any discrepancy in the number of ballots issued and the number of votes tabulated must be investigated. It requires that once ballot counting begins, it cannot stop until completed.

Every single one of these “harder to cheat” provisions in the Georgia law arises from a situation that took place in the 2020 presidential election in Georgia. 

The myriad problems thousands of Georgians experienced and witnessed following the 2020 election, and chronicled in hours of testimony taken by the state legislature in days and days of hearings, resulted in the new law.

The most concerning reports were those of the hundreds, maybe thousands, of voters who called various hotlines to report that when they went to vote on November 3, 2020, were told that they had already voted. Those legitimate, legal voters lost their right to vote because someone stole their ballot and their vote. That is voter suppression.

The changes in the Georgia law address specific and well-documented problems from 2020.

The Democrats hate those changes. Because they cheated thousands of Georgia voters last year and they want to be able to keep doing it. 

Democrats are cheaters. Plain and simple. And that’s why they hate the new Georgia law and all other efforts to stop them from repeating their shenanigans year after year. 

Lol

 

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, st1ckboy said:

Lol

 

Literally every argument as to how this law is “racist” or represents “voter suppression” is a lie.  But they can 100% count on the ignorant sheep that follow them so it doesn’t matter.

Democrats want to cheat in elections and anyone or anything that makes it more difficult for them to cheat is labeled racist.

 

[St1ck]

2 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Literally every argument as to how this law is “racist” or represents “voter suppression” is a lie.  But they can 100% count on the ignorant sheep that follow them so it doesn’t matter.

Democrats want to cheat in elections and anyone or anything that makes it more difficult for them to cheat is labeled racist.

 

It's an opinion piece by this twat, Cleta Mitchell. She is a Trump advisor and was on the phone call when he tried to shake down the Georgia SOS for extra votes. She was involved with the person trying to cheat the election. I wipe my ass with her opinion. 

Cleta Mitchell, a key figure in president?s phone call, was an early backer of Trump?s voter fraud claims - The Washington Post
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitchell-trump-georgia-voter-fraud/2021/01/04/7ef570d8-4e8e-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html%3foutputType=amp

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, st1ckboy said:

It's an opinion piece by this twat, Cleta Mitchell. She is a Trump advisor and was on the phone call when he tried to shake down the Georgia SOS for extra votes. She was involved with the person trying to cheat the election. I wipe my ass with her opinion. 

Cleta Mitchell, a key figure in president?s phone call, was an early backer of Trump?s voter fraud claims - The Washington Post
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitchell-trump-georgia-voter-fraud/2021/01/04/7ef570d8-4e8e-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html%3foutputType=amp

If you hate her, that’s fine.  But the actual content of what she writes here is spot on.

I don’t know about you, but I am personally capable of acknowledging valid points made by people I don’t like.

[Kevin]

Why do people keep comparing Southern Democrats to modern day ones? You know the small government, states rights democrats from the 1830s to about the 1960's aren't exactly in line with the present day ones. 

"Democrats were really the ones behind slavery, confederate monuments, etc."

"Okay, let's take down those monuments."

"No, that's our heritage and history!"

"So you're a democrat?"

Crickets

[St1ck]

39 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

If you hate her, that’s fine.  But the actual content of what she writes here is spot on.

I don’t know about you, but I am personally capable of acknowledging valid points made by people I don’t like.

She is a known liar. Why should I give anything she has to say any credence? 

[Jason]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

From realclearpolitics:

The reason Democrats and their left-wing allies hate the Georgia election reform bill and are so adamant about passing their H.R. 1 / S 1 Corrupt Politicians Act is simple: They cheat and they want to keep cheating.

They cheated in the presidential election of 2020 and got away with it, thanks to a fearful judiciary, a complicit media, and a multimillion-dollar scheme that turned election offices in targeted cities and counties into Democratic turnout machines, and eliminated or ignored the verification requirements for people voting by mail to prove their identity and their eligibility to vote.

Now, they are furiously trying to codify their massive 2020 cheating into federal law and to stop states from imposing new safeguards against illegal voting and election irregularities.

Finding it difficult to pass their bill on the merits means they must change the subject. Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) is conducting a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday he’s calling “Jim Crow 2.0,” for the purpose of marching out the “if-you-want-to-protect-America’s-elections-from-cheating-you-are-a-racist” meme. 

Why are they doing this? Because Democrats have realized they are on the wrong side of the views of the American people in every component of their election stealing H.R. 1.

 

How do Americans feel about banning voter ID requirements? According to polling data released by the Honest Elections Project, 

[o]ver three-quarters (77%) of Americans want people to show a photo ID to cast a ballot, while only 14% oppose it . . . by huge margins both Black and Hispanic voters favor voter identification for voting: Black voters, 64%, Hispanic voters 78%.

Similarly, 64% of Black voters, 77% of Hispanics, and 76% of low-income voters reject the notion that showing an ID is a ‘burden.’

Oops.

Stronger verification of absentee and mail-in ballots? Voters in every demographic favor absentee voter ID, including the young (18-24, 64 percent) and senior voters (56 percent), black (58 percent) and Hispanic (68 percent) voters, and low-income voters (62 percent). Moreover, 72 percent of voters say it would be easy to comply with an ID law that requires absentee voters to provide their driver’s license or partial Social Security number.

Tilt. 

How about requiring absentee ballots to be received by election day? Democrats scream “voter suppression.” But only 29 percent of voters agree . . . “[t]wice as many–59%–see that as a reasonable step to improve confidence in elections.”

The vast majority of the American people know that it should be easier to vote, but harder to cheat, which is why Americans in poll after poll support the common-sense changes that are included in Georgia’s election law. 

The Democrats have, no doubt, seen the same polling data. So enter the national smear campaign to paint all election safeguards as “Jim Crow.”

Democrats invented the Jim Crow laws and used those laws to disenfranchise blacks who had been granted freedom from slavery, equal protection, and the right to vote through the Constitutional amendments adopted after the Civil War. When blacks began to vote and be elected to office in the South, as Republicans, southern Democrats were having none of that. They created and enacted the Jim Crow laws to ensure none of those newly granted rights were actually enjoyed or available to former slaves. And Democrats enforced their Jim Crow laws for more than a century wearing white robes and burning crosses and leading lynch mobs. 

Democrats know how to do Jim Crow.

Fast forward to 2021: now they want to make sure that they can continue to herd African American voters and other minorities to the polls as they see fit, deny them their right to a secret ballot, fabricate and steal ballots belonging to legitimate voters, and engage in all manner of postmodern cheating. Just as they did in 2020.

Anyone claiming that the Georgia law is “voter suppression” simply hasn’t read it.

There are multiple provisions in the new law that make it easier to vote: It expands the permissible voter verification documents to include a bank statement or utility bill with the voter’s name and residential address. No photograph is required.

Early voting days are increased, additional Saturday voting days are mandated, local election officials are allowed to increase the hours for early voting, ballot drop boxes are mandated for every county, with the number based on population, among other similar “easier to vote” provisions. 

What the Democrats actually hate about the Georgia law is that it also makes it harder to cheat. It requires those voting by mail to verify their identities with either government-issued photo ID number or bank statement or utility bill. It requires all mailed ballots (except overseas and military ballots) to be received by the election offices on Election Day. It requires absentee voters to verify that they voted a secret ballot, outside the observation of any third party. It bans ballot trafficking where political operatives and strangers collect unlimited numbers of ballots. It secures ballot drop boxes and requires chain of custody documentation. It requires that the total number of ballots issued by every election official be reported by 10 p.m. on Election Night, and any discrepancy in the number of ballots issued and the number of votes tabulated must be investigated. It requires that once ballot counting begins, it cannot stop until completed.

Every single one of these “harder to cheat” provisions in the Georgia law arises from a situation that took place in the 2020 presidential election in Georgia. 

The myriad problems thousands of Georgians experienced and witnessed following the 2020 election, and chronicled in hours of testimony taken by the state legislature in days and days of hearings, resulted in the new law.

The most concerning reports were those of the hundreds, maybe thousands, of voters who called various hotlines to report that when they went to vote on November 3, 2020, were told that they had already voted. Those legitimate, legal voters lost their right to vote because someone stole their ballot and their vote. That is voter suppression.

The changes in the Georgia law address specific and well-documented problems from 2020.

The Democrats hate those changes. Because they cheated thousands of Georgia voters last year and they want to be able to keep doing it. 

Democrats are cheaters. Plain and simple. And that’s why they hate the new Georgia law and all other efforts to stop them from repeating their shenanigans year after year. 

This is a bit dramatic and there is a lot of unsubstantiated claims here but the new law in Georgia is not racist nor does it make it harder for people to vote. Democrats and media make this stuff up as red meat for their base. They know that most of their base will not bother to do their own research into the bill that was signed. I'm all for voting laws that will make fraud or other potential issues very difficult or unlikely. California probably should have done something like that with their Employment Development Department.  What is true is that Democrats oppose an ID to vote because that will allow anyone, lawfully or not, to vote. This would include people here illegally and felons and they will overwhelmingly vote Democrat. This is only about seizing power and maintaining it and nothing about fair elections. If the people without ID voted Republican then Democrats would be calling for ID laws. Neither of the parties have any real principles other than having power and control.  

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, st1ckboy said:

She is a known liar. Why should I give anything she has to say any credence? 

Essentially every person associated with politics is a liar.  So let’s apply your standard.  Why would you give any credence to any Democrat claiming these laws are racist?

[Dtwncbad]

47 minutes ago, Jason said:

This is a bit dramatic and there is a lot of unsubstantiated claims here but the new law in Georgia is not racist nor does it make it harder for people to vote. Democrats and media make this stuff up as red meat for their base. They know that most of their base will not bother to do their own research into the bill that was signed. I'm all for voting laws that will make fraud or other potential issues very difficult or unlikely. California probably should have done something like that with their Employment Development Department.  What is true is that Democrats oppose an ID to vote because that will allow anyone, lawfully or not, to vote. This would include people here illegally and felons and they will overwhelmingly vote Democrat. This is only about seizing power and maintaining it and nothing about fair elections. If the people without ID voted Republican then Democrats would be calling for ID laws. Neither of the parties have any real principles other than having power and control.  

You say it is a bit dramatic but then say it is true that Democrats want a system where anyone can vote unlawfully to win elections.

What can be more legitimately dramatic that Democrats intentionally trying to cheat to win elections unlawfully?

 

[St1ck]

30 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Essentially every person associated with politics is a liar.  So let’s apply your standard.  Why would you give any credence to any Democrat claiming these laws are racist?

Who says I do? 

[Jason]

32 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

You say it is a bit dramatic but then say it is true that Democrats want a system where anyone can vote unlawfully to win elections.

What can be more legitimately dramatic that Democrats intentionally trying to cheat to win elections unlawfully?

 

I just don't think there was wide spread fraud, at least what can be proved. 

[Dtwncbad]

6 minutes ago, st1ckboy said:

Who says I do? 

The whole point I am making is the Democrats are lying about the law simply for the purpose of being able to get votes that are not lawful, all for power.

And their strategy is to categorize anyone and anything that makes it harder for them to do so as racist.

I think we as a society have an obligation to have to courage to stand to this really disgusting lying that is:

1). A threat to having honest elections

2). especially hurtful and damaging to minorities (telling them that a huge chunk of America is trying to suppress their vote).

America needs to reject the left’s nasty race game.

[Dtwncbad]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

I just don't think there was wide spread fraud, at least what can be proved. 

Long conversation but the left will move heaven and earth to prevent any investigation into proving fraud.

If there was no fraud they wouldn’t be actively stopping every attempt to find it.

Their singular mechanism to see if a vote is valid is to simply check if the vote came from a registered voter.   Registered voter? STOP!! No fraud!!

Except the bulk of the fraud is in the registration.  Notice they want nothing to do with examining voter registrations for fraud!

Why is it that when someone becomes a brand new citizen and the system then wants to automatically get this brand new citizen registered to vote, that they regularly find that this person was already registered????

So people who do not legally qualify to register to vote are getting registered and voting.  This is indisputable but if no interest to the left to clean up.

And if this group can get illegally registered to vote, where else has the system been illegally manipulated to get people not qualified legally to be registered registered?

Just how many people do we have that are fraudulently registered?

You see, the left plays the distraction game.  They will say there is no evidence of voter fraud but they hang their hat on the registration exists.  Pay no attention to whether or not they are fraudulently registered.

You would think everyone would want to find the fraud in the registration process and clean it up, but the left refuses to acknowledge any of this.

 

[RallyMo]

[Dtwncbad]

2 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

HOA:  Every home gets a vote in our elections.

Some dumbass:  ok but what if one house has 15 people living there?

HOA:  We are a union of homeowners, not occupants.

(we are a union of states, not population)

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

HOA:  Every home gets a vote in our elections.

Some dumbass:  ok but what if one house has 15 people living there?

HOA:  We are a union of homeowners, not occupants.

(we are a union of states, not population)

Correct. The House of Representatives represents the people while the Senate represents the States. This is why larger states have more representatives in the House

[Lhalo]

18 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

Who could have predicted a growing population? So crazy!

[RallyMo]

16 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

HOA:  Every home gets a vote in our elections.

Some dumbass:  ok but what if one house has 15 people living there?

HOA:  We are a union of homeowners, not occupants.

(we are a union of states, not population)

HOAs suck

[Lhalo]

3 minutes ago, fishbulb said:

HOAs suck

Tell that to this idiot's neighbor.

[arch stanton]

Larry you might be the most selective libertarian of all time

[Lhalo]

10 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Larry you might be the most selective libertarian of all time

People can choose to live in an HOA or not. I just moved from one. It was a nice neighborhood but just not my style. 

[arch stanton]

4 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

People can choose to live in an HOA or not. I just moved from one. It was a nice neighborhood but just not my style. 

I would have thought you'd consider the right to choose your own house color on your own property to be as ingrained as the right to choose to go maskless

[Jason]

10 hours ago, arch stanton said:

Larry you might be the most selective libertarian of all time

My supervisor always talks about how proud he is to be a Libertarian but also thinks all kinds of guns should be banned. Libertarians are kind of weird 

[Lhalo]

2 hours ago, arch stanton said:

I would have thought you'd consider the right to choose your own house color on your own property to be as ingrained as the right to choose to go maskless

The owner freely agreed to join an HOA. Who am I to tell someone they can’t do that?

[Lou]

12 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

The owner freely agreed to join an HOA. Who am I to tell someone they can’t do that?

Larry