Red Sox get Ian Kinsler

[krAbs]

Soooo we essentially traded Troy Montgomery and Wilkel Hernandez for a 2018 lottery ticket, Ty Buttrey and Williams Jerez.

Montgomery has looked fine in single A (fine speed-bat combo which lacks any kind of power bat), which earned him a promotion to double A this year where he has struggled. Hernandez meanwhile has been shelled all year in low A. Buttrey and Jerez both seem ready to become pen pieces in 2019, after a year in which the Angels have struggled to keep a bullpen together.

 

Not a bad sounding couple of moves, imo.

[Docwaukee]

18 minutes ago, krAbs said:

Soooo we essentially traded Troy Montgomery and Wilkel Hernandez for a 2018 lottery ticket, Ty Buttrey and Williams Jerez.

Montgomery has looked fine in single A (fine speed-bat combo which lacks any kind of power bat), which earned him a promotion to double A this year where he has struggled. Hernandez meanwhile has been shelled all year in low A. Buttrey and Jerez both seem ready to become pen pieces in 2019, after a year in which the Angels have struggled to keep a bullpen together.

 

Not a bad sounding couple of moves, imo.

Montgomery actually got demoted.   

 

[krAbs]

Just now, Dochalo said:

Montgomery actually got demoted.   

 

Oh shit- I assumed he got moved up. I just glanced at his line on baseball reference. Well then - two boarderline mlb ready relievers for minor league depth. I'll take that.

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Farmbuildingfan said:

I like this very un Angel like trade.

Kinsler was 36. It is nice to see the Angels do a backwards trade for a change.

 

It had been all of 4 days since we made a trade like this.  

[Dick B Back]

11 hours ago, Warfarin said:

Well for what it's worth, one of the guys we got can allegedly hit 101MPH, so that's neat

Will be good to see him in the BP next year with Middleton, Meyer and Anderson.

[Stradling]

By the way, while I struggle to get excited for a trade that nets us two middle relief guys that are 25 and 26 years old, I am fine with the deal.  If these guys come up and are effective they immediately have more value on the market than Kinsler.

[stormngt]

Good trade? That question is confusing me.  How the could it be a bad trade?  We are out of the race! Kinsler is in last year in contract.   It would have been a good trade if it was just a six pack of beer!

[tdawg87]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

By the way, while I struggle to get excited for a trade that nets us two middle relief guys that are 25 and 26 years old, I am fine with the deal.  If these guys come up and are effective they immediately have more value on the market than Kinsler.

I like the fact that Eppler got TWO of these guys. Increases the chance that one of them works out.

I would have loved a higher value prospect, but one of the team's biggest needs going into 2019 is bullpen help. Eppler is addressing that already.

Plus, it further makes our relievers expendable should a team come calling. 

[GrittyVeterans]

Eppler with a big vote of confidence for David Fletcher. Hopefully he can become our Chris Taylor

[GrittyVeterans]

1 hour ago, tdawg87 said:

He gets negative points for being Jewish.

Wasn’t funny

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

32 minutes ago, Dick B Back said:

Will be good to see him in the BP next year with Middleton, Meyer and Anderson.

Lets hope.

[Farmbuildingfan]

32 minutes ago, Stradling said:

It had been all of 4 days since we made a trade like this.  

2nd trade was more against the grain, two prospects for an even older guy..

[Stradling]

7 minutes ago, Farmbuildingfan said:

2nd trade was more against the grain, two prospects for an even older guy..

No it really wasn’t.  It is your perception, which has been pointed out frequently that hasn’t been the reality for a few years.  Also when was the last time we had a tradeble piece that was in the last year of his contract?  I am positive we have had one, but I don’t remember who.  

[Blarg]

Weaver.

[Stradling]

Just now, Blarg said:

Weaver.

He was throwing 83 MPH and was a life long Angel at the time.  But yes that would be an example.  

[nate]

Yunel Escobar

[tdawg87]

19 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Wasn’t funny

 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Yunel Escobar

Yea he played a total of 5 games after the deadline last year, the last game he played was August 6th.  He would have been a guy to move if there was any market for him and there might have been.

[nate]

David Freese

[2020worldseries]

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The irony of Ian Kinsler coming to Boston--considering he left Arizona State when Dustin Pedroia arrived and took is position--is remarkable, but he is a key addition. But, on Ty Buttrey--"There's been more buzz on him in the lthan any other triple-A reliever," says NL scout.

[m0nkey]

20 minutes ago, Stradling said:

No it really wasn’t.  It is your perception, which has been pointed out frequently that hasn’t been the reality for a few years.  Also when was the last time we had a tradeble piece that was in the last year of his contract?  I am positive we have had one, but I don’t remember who.  

Scott Downs.

 

I remember the outrage when they "only" got cory rasmus out of him

[tdawg87]

9 minutes ago, 2020worldseries said:

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The irony of Ian Kinsler coming to Boston--considering he left Arizona State when Dustin Pedroia arrived and took is position--is remarkable, but he is a key addition. But, on Ty Buttrey--"There's been more buzz on him in the lthan any other triple-A reliever," says NL scout.

@EnglishCop ?

[Inside Pitch]

22 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

Scott Downs.

 

I remember the outrage when they "only" got cory rasmus out of him

That was actually one of the few times I lost my shit over something trivial.   I wasn't as annoyed with the return as much of the timing of the trade.  Regardless, it was a stupid position on my part.

[Chuck]

28 minutes ago, 2020worldseries said:

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The irony of Ian Kinsler coming to Boston--considering he left Arizona State when Dustin Pedroia arrived and took is position--is remarkable, but he is a key addition. But, on Ty Buttrey--"There's been more buzz on him in the lthan any other triple-A reliever," says NL scout.

I think Gammons had a stroke mid-Tweet. 

[Erstad Grit]

Anyone remember the trade deadline when Chuck Finley was going to enter free agency? We were out of it , as usual. Finley became known as "the yankee killer." Indians knew they had Yankees in the playoffs and a trade for Finley looked like a guarantee. They couldn't get the deal done. We got nothing. Indians got shelled and then signed Finley as a FA. 

Strange how small things stick in one's memory.