The Official TROUTstanding Thread

[Angelsjunky]

17 minutes ago, Revad said:

Nice article from Fangraphs suggests he is improving on non-fastballs.

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/amid-fits-and-starts-mike-trout-might-be-getting-better-at-something/
 

Yeah, Craig told me about that.

[Revad]

11 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Yeah, Craig told me about that.

Oops.  My heart is in the right place, halfway between my little and big heads.

[HanfordGuy]

 

[Docwaukee]

still good.  

[Taylor]

What I always forget about Trout is that while he's the most consistent superstar in baseball, his seasons are made up of mini-streaks that alternate back and forth. He struggles for three or so games, striking out a ton, and then he goes on an absolute tear for three, four, five, etc. games, before struggling again.

When he's able to stay healthy for a full season, it culminates in some very sexy stats.

[FromJapan]

Recently, the posts and articles using "Troutani" has been increased on Japanese SNS and sports media.
Is the following the first post at AngelsWin.com?

Posted on April 5, 2018  in the topic of Gameday: 4/4 Angels vs Indians

On 4/5/2018 at 10:33 AM, VariousCrap said:

I'm liking the Troutani name for sure.

[fan_since79]

My favorite Trout stats:

WAR per 162 games: 9.7

Adjusted OPS+: 177 (6th place all-time)

He's already at 2.6 WAR and we're only in the first week or so of May.

[Chuck]

 

[Chuck]

 

[Angelsjunky]

Trout Day Approaches...

Fangraphs WAR Leaders

1. Machado 2.8
2. Trout 2.7
3. Judge 2.6
4. Ward 2.5
5. Arenado 2.1

Who knows, we might even see Ward Day!

[Angelsjunky]

Trout has 999 runs scored, which was actually Barry Bonds' total through his age 30 season (Trout's current year). Trout will become the 45th player to have 1000+ runs scored through age 30. If he scores 101 more runs this year, he'll become the 21st player to score 1100 through age 30.

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by Angelsjunky

[Chuck]

 

[Angelsjunky]

Trout has now passed Charlie Gehringer on the all-time fWAR list to reach #40. In the few couple weeks t, he's going to pass five players, and then have several guys in his sights to pass before the year's end (hopefully):

31. George Davis 84.6

32. Chipper Jones 84.6

33. Adrian Beltre 83.8

34. Joe DiMaggio 83.0

35. Roberto Clemente 80.6

36. Jeff Bagwell 80.2

37. Pete Rose 80.2

38. Brooks Robinson 80.2

39. Dan Brouthers 79.5

40. Mike Trout 78.9

41. Charlie Gehringer 78.6

42. Ken Griffey Jr 77.7

BR is slightly different - Trout is 42nd at 79.0, between Brooks Robinson (43, 78.5) and Joe Dimaggio (41, 79.2). Griffey's still ahead at #36 with 83.8.

[Angelsjunky]

Also, Manny Machado's great keeps Trout Day at bay for awhile longer. Trout had a great day yesterday (3-4, HR, 1B, W), but Manny's was even better (4-4, 3 2B, 3B, W).

1. Machado 3.5
2. Trout 2.9
3. Judge 2.7
4. Ward 2.7 (not qualified)
5. Devers 2.4

[Angelsjunky]

More Troutporn, from baseballegg.com. They have a nifty way of ranking greatest players of all time by position; here's their list for center field:

https://baseballegg.com/all-time-player-rankings/baseballs-greatest-center-fielders-of-all-time/

Basically they add up Career WAR, Long Peak (best 7 seasons), Short Peak (best 3 seasons), and Prime (best five consecutive seasons, then adjusts in various ways. I think this works well because it weights peak level nicely against career, so we get:

1. Willie Mays 546.0
2. Mickey Mantle 425.8
3. Ty Cobb 419.4
4. Mike Trout 391.9
5. Tris Speaker 383.9
6. Ken Griffey Jr 357.7
7. Joe DiMaggio 342.6

Now I personally think DiMaggio should edge out Griffey, but that's the formula. Interesting to see Trout above Speaker. Usually Speaker is considered the "worst of the best" - the top four center fielders of all time. But Trout's peak is just high enough, I guess.

Taking a very modest approach and assuming Trout only adds another 40 WAR and doesn't add any more best seasons, he's going to surpass Cobb and Mantle and finish around 450. It will be very, very difficult for him to catch Mays, though.

 

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[arch stanton]

https://theathletic.com/3346131/2022/06/03/mike-trout-minor-leagues/

While we wallow in the sorrow of the losing streak here's a little something to brighten the mood. If you don't have an Athletic subscription, WTF is wrong with you?

[Angelsjunky]

Trout is now 40th in fWAR, having passed three players this year: Bill Dahlen, Ken Griffey Jr, and now Charlie Gehringer. Up next: 

35. Roberto Clemente 80.6

36. Jeff Bagwell 80.2

37. Pete Rose 80.2

38. Brooks Robinson 80.2

39. Dan Brothers 79.5

40. Mike Trout 79.1

41. Charlie Gehringer 78.6

Meaning, he could pass five more players before the All-Star break. Joe DiMaggio would be up next (83.0).

[HanfordGuy]

 

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