Gameday Thread: Angels vs. Rockies (5/9/2018)

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Mark68 said:

I understand that. But Barria had thrown what...83 pitches? Would it have been that dangerous to have him complete the inning (or to pull him if someone else reached)? Instead, you bring in a rookie to throw some pretty high-stress pitches AND burn a bench player in the process.

1. 90 pitches 

2. Barria is a rookie, too 

[mtangelsfan]

Just now, Mark68 said:

I understand that. But Barria had thrown what...83 pitches? Would it have been that dangerous to have him complete the inning (or to pull him if someone else reached)? Instead, you bring in a rookie to throw some pretty high-stress pitches AND burn a bench player in the process.

Yes, they had a good lead and why not save his arm?  This is a rookie pitcher.  I'll be the first to criticize Sosh for stuff I think is dumb.  This just isn't one of them.  It just seems super nit-picky to me.

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

I understand that. But Barria had thrown what...83 pitches? Would it have been that dangerous to have him complete the inning (or to pull him if someone else reached)? Instead, you bring in a rookie to throw some pretty high-stress pitches AND burn a bench player in the process.

89 pitches. They were going to pinch hit for him if he completed the inning or not. 

[Dick B Back]

2 minutes ago, eligrba4ever said:

3 straight Ks starting with runners at first and third no out. Alvarez digs out of his own jam.

Sort of the MLB-wide story of the season. Strikeouts are on a record pace.

The 4 teams in the AL that have struck out the most hitters are the 4 teams with the best records. And, yeah, the Angels are one of them!

[Blarg]

4 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Alvarez is arguably our best utilized reliever

Fify

[Blarg]

I like seeing the Angels keeping the pressure on in the 9th with a 7 run lead. 

[Lou]

Has anyone seen Calhoun in the dugout? 

[Dick B Back]

Just now, Lou said:

Has anyone seen Calhoun in the dugout? 

And was he holding the jug of Playboy Lotion?

[Lou]

Simmons up to try and extend his hitting streak

[Mark68]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

89 pitches. They were going to pinch hit for him if he completed the inning or not. 

I’m well aware of that. So why not just pinch hit for him in the next inning instead of double switching mid-inning.

 

That’s actually why I thought Barria should have been given the opportunity to finish the inning.

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Alvarez is arguably our best reliever

Brown guy 

[red321]

13 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

I think giving Barria the early hook is an example of what could be a cumulative effect in the bullpen. We saw what happened the other night when Scioscua went to the well one too many times with Anderson. There’s only so many shuttles we can utilize between Anaheim and Salt Lake. Keep pulling the starters too early and the bullpen becomes overworked. So it worked out this once. This is not a case of “the ends justify the means”. Over time, it could lead to a huge problem.

I don't necessarily disagree with you...though I think we have to keep in mind that the Angels have a helluva lot of pitchers coming off arms injuries...and in the case of Barria this is a guy who hasn't thrown over 140 innings in a season, is 21, and is probably going to go well over his career highs in innings pitched.

 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Mark68 said:

I’m well aware of that. So why not just pinch hit for him in the next inning instead of double switching mid-inning.

That’s actually why I thought Barria should have been given the opportunity to finish the inning.

To keep his pitch count down because (insert red's quote here) 

Edited May 9, 2018 by Lou

[T.G.]

Barria-gate

[JarsOfClay]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

Has anyone seen Calhoun in the dugout? 

Yes, he's the one picking up the bats and carrying them back to the dugout.

[Dick Enberg]

8 minutes ago, Lou said:

Has anyone seen Calhoun in the dugout? 

I saw him running toward the Bus-Stop out front

[stormngt]

18 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

My honest guess would be in this new era of baseball, we are moving away from the golden standard of 100 pitches in a game, because more and more SPs are getting hurt.  Yes, you are correct, Barria has not suffered a significant injury in the past.  However, he's young and he's pitching in a very tough environment today.  

A lot of prospects these days throw 75-80 pitches in a game, then get pulled.  This is the overall trend I am noticing.  

This makes sense.  My only concern is what's been brought up.  We are burning the bullpen and we dont have the flexibility to shuffle bullpen arms up and back from Salt Lake.   I guess the season will tell if it pays off.

[red321]

2 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

Yes, he's the one picking up the bats and carrying them back to the dugout.

Oh no...Stephen is out of a job?

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, stormngt said:

This makes sense.  My only concern is what's been brought up.  We are burning the bullpen and we dont have the flexibility to shuffle bullpen arms up and back from Salt Lake.   I guess the season will tell if it pays off.

This is also an excellent point and something we need to watch for.  They need to be less reliant on Anderson, Middleton, Alvarez to save us right now.  This is where our current roster construction of having mainly relievers WITHOUT options harms us.  We need to be able to option guys back and forth, give breaks, etc...

That said, let's take things a game at a time.  Anderson has been off for a few days in a row, then came in and pitched today. Who knows what tomorrow may bring?  We may get blown out and not need him, we may blow them out and not need him, our SP could pitch 7+ innings, etc...

 

[daygloman]

Light up the Halo!!

Go Halos!!!

[eligrba4ever]

LIGHT THAT BABY UP!!!

Barria  and the pen fire 9 innings of shutout ball.

Upton, Cozart and Rivera find the seats!!

Hits galore (12) for the Angels. Bring on the Twinkies!!! 

[JustATroutFan]

Great team win! Hitting was outstanding and pitching was out of this world today!

[Warfarin]

Considering we just played two games in Coors, we didn't really burn out our pen.  Pretty awesome.  Middleton's due back soon too, as soon as tomorrow!

[Inside Pitch]

29 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

And from what source did you get this information from?

The 567 million posts from AW.com experts arguing the Angels have more pitching injuries than anyone else...

[Mark68]

As we in Colorado say:

 

Light that shit!