Pujols has been terrible

[fan_since79]

10 hours ago, GrittyVeterans said:

He's making about $161,000 per game this year. So about $35,000-$40,000 for every worthless at bat he takes

 

In other words he makes over 3 times more than the per capita GDP every single fucking game. Crazy

I pointed out those facts one time and was criticized on this forum for being "envious" of Albert.

 

[m0nkey]

.172/.200/.333 in 90 AB's in the second half.  

Worse than Aaron Judge's .175/.337/.363

[Dick B Back]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Willie Mays was considered to be really bad at baseball in 1973, his last MLB season.   His OPS was .647 in 1973.

Pujols currently has a .651 OPS in probably at least 3 quarters more at bats than Mays had in 1973.

1 + 1 = 2.

And Mays was 42, just saying...

[zenmaster]

40 minutes ago, Dick B Back said:

And Mays was 42, just saying...

So similar age. 

[Dugout]

Lets start giving Albert 4-5 days off each week and let it sink in that he is irrelevant at this point. Does he really want to end his career like this? Maybe he will collect his things and go home.

[Stradling]

This very easily could be added to the other Albert is not a good player anymore threads.  I don't mean to be a jerk, but we have two other threads on this exact same topic on the front page.

[VariousCrap]

His lifetime batting average is now down to .306.  If he plays out his contract he is really going to lower that number.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Maybe when he literally hits his weight....

[Angel Oracle]

49 minutes ago, Stradling said:

This very easily could be added to the other Albert is not a good player anymore threads.  I don't mean to be a jerk, but we have two other threads on this exact same topic on the front page.

I would keep this one and the one predicting what will happen with his contract.   That is enough.

[red321]

I was looking at the box score last night, and saw just how atrocious Pujol's numbers were...and then I looked at the rest of the box score and realized he was middle of the pack...holy shit.

[YouthofToday]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Maybe when he literally hits his weight....

This might be too aggressive of a projection. 

[YouthofToday]

5 minutes ago, red321 said:

I was looking at the box score last night, and saw just how atrocious Pujol's numbers were...and then I looked at the rest of the box score and realized he was middle of the pack...holy shit.

Name the only player in MLB with a worse WAR this year amongst qualified PAs than TheAlbertross?

Pujols has a 71 wRC+. Jeff Mathis has a 57 wRC+ so far this year. Factoring in defense and Jeff Mathis has been a vastly better and more productive player than TheAlbertross this year. That is remarkable.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, YouthofToday said:

Name the only player in MLB with a worse WAR this year amongst qualified PAs than TheAlbertross?

Pujols has a 71 wRC+. Jeff Mathis has a 57 wRC+ so far this year. Factoring in defense and Jeff Mathis has been a vastly better and more productive player than TheAlbertross this year. That is remarkable.

 

[Angel Oracle]

Cron is en fuego (.320 BA in past 50 at bats).   Calhoun is starting to heat up (8-21 in August).    Simmons is Simmons.

But will Sosh move Pujols and his .651 OPS down in the order?    Unfortunately, the answer is probably a big LOL.

[aznhockeyguy]

47 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Cron is en fuego (.320 BA in past 50 at bats).   Calhoun is starting to heat up (8-21 in August).    Simmons is Simmons.

But will Sosh move Pujols and his .651 OPS down in the order?    Unfortunately, the answer is probably a big LOL.

They'll point to his big RBI numbers and say he belongs there.

[nando714]

Time for The Machine to rake us to the WC in New York!

[Inside Pitch]

26 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Time for The Machine to rake us to the WC in New York!

That might take a Time Machine.....  

[ten ocho recon scout]

19 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

That might take a Time Machine.....  

Father time machine, new nickname

[Blarg]

Whoever is the social media idiot on the radio after the game today made the asinine statement that Albert Pujols is still driving in runs. 

He has a total of 14 rbi in the 21 games after the all Star break.

Two outs with RISP .222/.288/.315/.603

Late and close .194/.265/.306/.571

With men on base .222/.266/.364/.630 with 15 GIDP

He's done. Bench him for the remainder of the season.

 

 

[Troll Daddy]

It looks like the team is going to sink or swim with Pujols batting behind Trout. 

 

[fan_since79]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

Whoever is the social media idiot on the radio after the game today made the asinine statement that Albert Pujols is still driving in runs. 

He has a total of 14 rbi in the 21 games after the all Star break.

Two outs with RISP .222/.288/.315/.603

Late and close .194/.265/.306/.571

With men on base .222/.266/.364/.630 with 15 GIDP

He's done. Bench him for the remainder of the season.

 

 

But....those are stats, and indicate production, or lack thereof.

He's not here for production. Whatever gave you that idea? He's a future Hall of Famer (as a Cardinal) and we owe him a gazillion dollars over the next four years. Then a ten-year personal services contract.

You don't bench a guy like that. You don't even move him out of whatever spot in the batting order he's comfortable with. Wins are overrated. He's The Machine. He plays.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Troll Daddy said:

It looks like the team is going to sink or swim with Pujols batting behind Trout. 

 

"Pujols" "sink" "swim"

 

Ill bet he does.

[AngelsLakersFan]

6 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

But....those are stats, and indicate production, or lack thereof.

He's not here for production. Whatever gave you that idea? He's a future Hall of Famer (as a Cardinal) and we owe him a gazillion dollars over the next four years. Then a ten-year personal services contract.

You don't bench a guy like that. You don't even move him out of whatever spot in the batting order he's comfortable with. Wins are overrated. He's The Machine. He plays.

At some point someone is going to have to face reality. Supposedly we are in the business of trying to win games, and I understand the fear of cutting bait too early on an enormously expensive asset, but right now Pujols is single handedly pulling the team out of contention and it's clear to just about everyone.

Tell him to take the rest of the season off. Go home, and think about what he wants to do. I'd like to suggest he try and get himself in decent shape just to see if he still has something left in the tank, lord knows he has the natural talent. There are 4 years left on the contract, he is done right now and he will stay done, the only question is whether or not the organization is willing to sink the teams chances over the rest of the Trout window in order to accommodate Albert's ego.

[ten ocho recon scout]

You almost have to wonder if and when the players start to grumble about it to sosh (if they havent). 

His rep is that hes a great teammate...buuuuuut stuff like this tends to fire up guys who think they could do better...who are heading to arbitration, FA and need some numbers themself...and coaches who get playoff bonuses...

[Blarg]

That's really the Crux of the argument for me. Is this team comprised to win games or facilitate Pujols padding counting stats? He is going to the hall of fame whether he hits 100 or no home runs in the next four years. He goes in regardless if he stops now or waits for his 3,000 hits to accumulate.

So let's quit with trying to pimp his stats and get on with winning. Albert is not providing anything that contributes to a win at this point. It isn't a slump when it's August and he is still declining after three bad weeks in a row, four bad months in a row, five declining seasons in a row. 

This is what the end of a career looks like in sports when a player keeps playing long after they can't.