The Wall

[Adam]

Poozy is Mr. Meeeeeeeks or whatever

[Lhalo]

16 minutes ago, Adam said:

Tariffs are bad bad bad

Wrong wrong wrong.

[red321]

That's what I thought, poozy cray cray...but never would have been a...a...damn, need a good name for berner->trumpkin

[Make Angels Great Again]

Since my switch seems to be such an obsession, let me explain it.

I like to keep an open mind. After Bernie berned out I took an honest look at the Trump side since I despised Clinton so much, and saw a lot of it made sense. You see, i'm not too prideful to admit when i'm wrong, unlike many others around here *cough* @red321 *cough*. I actually watched this 2 hour long youtube video of Peter Schiff confronting occupy wall street protestors and explaining economic policy to them (deregulation, the waste of a lot of government departments etc). I thought he made a lot of sense.

I always had a problem with everything being called racist, sexist etc. I think it's fucking stupid and insulting. The worst thing Bernie did in my mind was when a couple black lives matter chicks took over his stage on the campaign trail and he just stepped aside like a wimp and let them take over.

So here we are, it's that simple. Do I agree with everything Trump does? No, but he screams anti establishment, which is what many voters wanted over anything else. There are still some ideas from Bernie which I think hold water and could work if implemented right. But after seeing how the Democrats carried themselves this last year i'm somewhat ashamed I ever aligned with them.

[Taylor]

What are the odds that this wall actually gets built?

[mtangelsfan]

Sadly, I think 50/50.  I really thought he would back off on that as soon as he got in office.

 

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, mtangelsfan said:

Sadly, I think 50/50.  I really thought he would back off on that as soon as he got in office.

But with Texans and Native Americans telling the feds to get off their lawn, could the complete wall actually happen? I suppose Trump could do whatever the F he wants, and deal with the lawsuits and voter fallout later.

[Mark68]

Maybe we should ask Berliners what they thought of their wall.

Wait, I did when I was there. They weren't too keen.

[Lhalo]

2 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

Maybe we should ask Berliners what they thought of their wall.

Wait, I did when I was there. They weren't too keen.

Apples and Dildos.

[Blarg]

That wall split a single country in two. Split government control of one country into two separate ideologies. Maybe you asked a question but the answer was not part of this argument. 

[Mark68]

33 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Since my switch seems to be such an obsession, let me explain it.

I like to keep an open mind. After Bernie berned out I took an honest look at the Trump side since I despised Clinton so much, and saw a lot of it made sense. You see, i'm not too prideful to admit when i'm wrong, unlike many others around here *cough* @red321 *cough*. I actually watched this 2 hour long youtube video of Peter Schiff confronting occupy wall street protestors and explaining economic policy to them (deregulation, the waste of a lot of government departments etc). I thought he made a lot of sense.

I always had a problem with everything being called racist, sexist etc. I think it's fucking stupid and insulting. The worst thing Bernie did in my mind was when a couple black lives matter chicks took over his stage on the campaign trail and he just stepped aside like a wimp and let them take over.

So here we are, it's that simple. Do I agree with everything Trump does? No, but he screams anti establishment, which is what many voters wanted over anything else. There are still some ideas from Bernie which I think hold water and could work if implemented right. But after seeing how the Democrats carried themselves this last year i'm somewhat ashamed I ever aligned with them.

He may scream anti-establishment all he wants. His cabinet picks, however, scream the exact opposite.

[Make Angels Great Again]

It doesn't matter who he picks, if he picks someone with experience people shout "swamp!" if he picks someone without experience people think he's picking morons.

[mtangelsfan]

3 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

He may scream anti-establishment all he wants. His cabinet picks, however, scream the exact opposite.

I'm not a fan of many of his picks but it is an eclectic bunch.  I wouldn't say they are all or mostly insiders at all.

[Mark68]

3 minutes ago, Blarg said:

That wall split a single country in two. Split government control of one country into two separate ideologies. Maybe you asked a question but the answer was not part of this argument. 

Actually, no. The Wall went up 16 years after the end of WWII. The country was already split then. It was designed to stop people from going from one side to the other. Much like the Trump wall would do.

The only difference is that it was built by the side that didn't want to lose people instead of the side that would gain.

[Mark68]

7 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I'm not a fan of many of his picks but it is an eclectic bunch.  I wouldn't say they are all or mostly insiders at all.

They may not be Washington insiders, but many are certainly Wall Street insiders.

[red321]

51 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Since my switch seems to be such an obsession, let me explain it.

You seem to have confused laughing at you, with obsession

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, calscuf said:

I keep going back and forth between thinking MAGA is sincere and an imbecile or that he's a genius and is playing us.

That sad part is he could be both and yet no one can tell the difference. 

[red321]

Just now, calscuf said:

I keep going back and forth between thinking MAGA is sincere and an imbecile or that he's a genius and is playing us.

Let's be honest...if you were to find out he was one of those paid russian trolls who's sitting in a Georgian call center spamming dozens of message boards you wouldn't be entirely shocked would you?

[mtangelsfan]

10 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

They may not be Washington insiders, but many are certainly Wall Street insiders.

From day one he said he was going to bring in business leaders for those kind of posts.  

[mtangelsfan]

16 minutes ago, Mark68 said:

Actually, no. The Wall went up 16 years after the end of WWII. The country was already split then. It was designed to stop people from going from one side to the other. Much like the Trump wall would do.

The only difference is that it was built by the side that didn't want to lose people instead of the side that would gain.

Except that they had been a single country for many years before being split.  While I think the wall is a dumb, stupid idea I don't think the best comparison is the Berlin Wall although it is good to point out that walls, in general, do not look good to most folks.

[Make Angels Great Again]

6 minutes ago, red321 said:

You seem to have confused laughing at you, with obsession

[Make Angels Great Again]

9 minutes ago, calscuf said:

I keep going back and forth between thinking MAGA is sincere and an imbecile or that he's a genius and is playing us.

 

If you can't make up your mind maybe you're the imbecile?

 

[red321]

17 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

well then...you certainly are a lucky boy

[Make Angels Great Again]

1 minute ago, red321 said:

well then...you certainly are a lucky boy

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[AngelsLongBall]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

But with Texans and Native Americans telling the feds to get off their lawn, could the complete wall actually happen? I suppose Trump could do whatever the F he wants, and deal with the lawsuits and voter fallout later.

California will file multiple environmental lawsuits.  I'd say the odds are the Bullet Train gets built before the wall