The Angels should bring in Josh Reddick

[UndertheHalo]

He'll be affordable and is IMO a legit starting fielder.  By leaps and bounds better then anything else we've run out in LF in the last 5 years.  He played well with the A's and though started out horrifically with the Doyers got going again in mid September.  The crap play with the Dodgers should lower his price tag anyway.  I'd be very pleased with Eppler if this was his only significant move this offseason.  Thoughts ?

Edited October 16, 2016 by UndertheHalo

[Docwaukee]

Reddick was slated to get 100mil prior to him being traded.  He was an excellent defensive OFer from 2011 through 2015.  Many metrics didn't like his D this year.  An aberration or normal aging?  Was his drop this year something to be concerned about?  He probably gets 5/75 in this market.   i don't see him being head a shoulders better than Marte overall.  In fact, I think Marte will be better offensively.  

 

[UndertheHalo]

I dunno, maybe i'm missing something on Marte.  I think 5/75 sounds about right, and i'd be ok with them paying it.

[ukyah]

until they get the pitching, i couldn't give a shit about who's in left field.

pitching, pitching, pitching.

oh and btw, pitching.

[Rico]

Many outfielders ended up signing for less than expected last off-season.  I say good things come to those who wait.

[arch stanton]

How much is a 30 year old platoon player whose primary asset will be diminished by the home stadium worth?

[Second Base]

My money would be on a Jon Jay. Low cost, good defense, hits for average and can run a bit, can hit at the top or bottom of the order and provides CF depth for when Trout needs a breather.

[AngelStew43]

If we spend on anything, I hope it's Kenley Jansen.  A bullpen of Street (7th), Bedrosian (8th), and Jansen (9th) would take a lot of pressure off of our recovering starters.

[JAHV76]

IMO the Angels need to rid themselves of the other Josh's contract before spending $75-$100M or signing another 30 plus year old player. It does seem like they have had back luck with Josh's Hamilton and Paul.

[tdawg87]

5 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

If we spend on anything, I hope it's Kenley Jansen.  A bullpen of Street (7th), Bedrosian (8th), and Jansen (9th) would take a lot of pressure off of our recovering starters.

I would absolutely love to have Jansen, but the dude is about to get the largest contract ever given to a reliever. I could see him getting the same contract CJ Wilson got.

[gurn67]

Sorry, the guy has only played more than 115 games twice in his career and has never had even one season of .800 OPS (.640 career OPS vs. LHP). Then again, an aging, injury prone outfielder who has never hit well in Angels' Stadium, sound like a perfect fit according to past acquisitions. The guy will go to a bandbox like Arlington and rake.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I have a feeling the angels are in on him. And another that street isnt going to be the closer anymore.

[Troll Daddy]

Angels will be in on everybody

[Ohtaniland]

He, like many, can't hit in Anaheim. Move on.

[VariousCrap]

If the Angels choose to sign someone for LF, the two I think they are the most likely to sign are Jon Jay or Colby Rasmus.  Both would be inexpensive compared to the rest on the market.

[disarcina]

Reddick -- that's what the Angels need - a guy rejected by the A's and then the Dodgers.

great way to build for the future.......

Look, Reddick is OK - had some good years with Oakland -- I just think if we sign him we're looking at a two year stop gap plan for the Halos -- which, realistically, may be where the Halos are right now.  If we get Reddick during the off-season, it sort of confirms that's where the Halos are.......oh well.

perhaps you can chalk this post up to yours truly not really wanting to acknowledge reality -- that is - -the 2017 and perhaps '18 season(s) may be already over for us.

 

[Oz27]

1 minute ago, disarcina said:

Reddick -- that's what the Angels need - a guy rejected by the A's and then the Dodgers.

 

Rejected? Wut? The A's traded him in a deal which netted them a significant return. He still plays for the Dodgers. I'm probably not a huge fan of signing him and think it would take close to $100 million but he is better than "OK". He has averaged 3.4 wins above replacement per year in his five full big league seasons and 3.4 wins was Kole Calhoun's value in 2016.

Anyway, I think many people are underestimating the free agent market. Guys like Reddick and Rich Hill are the best options available. I made this point in a thread the other day where someone said Hill would sign for something like 2/20, which is so wildly under what is likely to happen. 5/100 might end up on the low side for Reddick.

[stormngt]

4 hours ago, CALZONE said:

He, like many, can't hit in Anaheim. Move on.

If he can hit in Oakland he can hit in anaheim

[Ohtaniland]

17 hours ago, arch stanton said:

How much is a 30 year old platoon player whose primary asset will be diminished by the home stadium worth?

this ^^^

[UndertheHalo]

5 hours ago, Oz27 said:

Rejected? Wut? The A's traded him in a deal which netted them a significant return. He still plays for the Dodgers. I'm probably not a huge fan of signing him and think it would take close to $100 million but he is better than "OK". He has averaged 3.4 wins above replacement per year in his five full big league seasons and 3.4 wins was Kole Calhoun's value in 2016.

Anyway, I think many people are underestimating the free agent market. Guys like Reddick and Rich Hill are the best options available. I made this point in a thread the other day where someone said Hill would sign for something like 2/20, which is so wildly under what is likely to happen. 5/100 might end up on the low side for Reddick.

I don't think he commands 5/100 just because of his injury history.  I think last year we finally saw the market show some resistance to the sky rocketing salaries that we've seen in the last decade.  Cespedes and Upton being very well paid (Cespedes notably only got a 1 year deal), but good examples of guys that many teams just turned away from.  I think that trend will continue.  I don't think Reddick will be viewed in a better light then those two.  Obviously I agree with you that Reddick is a good player though.  Some of the posters here seem to think that a guy has to be a perennial all star or he's garbage.  It just not the case.  He's not that old, he's 29.  

If we can get him on a 5 year deal thats fine imo.  15 million is also fine IMO for a guy who is a everyday player when healthy.  Of course if the price tag goes much north of that my mind will change.  Free agency is what it is.  We'll never get a "good deal" its just not the way the system is structured.  We have a farm system that is utterly barren and I'd like to see the Angels compete with Mike Trout on the team.  We need a left fielder desperately, Reddick Jay, Rasmus - fine.  Reddick comes sans a comp pick.  I'll take him.   As far as Jansen goes.  I don't believe in giving huge contracts to relief pitchers.  Thats just me.   

Edited October 17, 2016 by UndertheHalo

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Some of the posters here seem to think that a guy has to be a perennial all star or he's garbage

More like 90% of the posters here. 

If you play for another team, you're either Mike Trout, Clayton Kershaw, or you suck. 

[ScruffytheJanitor]

I'd rather have Justin Turner, though I think Turner gets a ridiculous contract. Still, the difference between Turner and rest of our 2B options is  greater than the difference between Reddick and a 2nd tier LF option (like John Jay). 

[floplag]

16 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Angels will be in on everybody

or nobody... well the bargain bin perhaps but thats about it.  
I'm not wasting effort thinking we are going to actually do anything this off season,  negative i know but one too many years of torturing myself.
Anything that will actually matter will cost more than we are willing to spend and wont really matter in terms of competitive ability.  Do we even make up enough to catch Hou or reach 500 with one expensive guy?
IMO they are playing for turnstiles and maybe making a splash in about 2-3 years.  

[Troll Daddy]

The Angels were 42-40 from July 1st

Think about it ...

[VariousCrap]

24 minutes ago, floplag said:

Do we even make up enough to catch Hou or reach 500 with one expensive guy?

Without a doubt, it will take the Angels more than one expensive guy to greatly improve this team, but I do believe that if the Angels make several moderate offseason signings, this team will be in the playoff hunt next year.

Obviously the team needs to improve LF, 2B, get a couple arms for the BP and an SP arm.  None of these signings need to be "big splashes" though.