Tipping Pros. Thoughts?

[Tank]

i couldn't see myself tipping on a $4 cup of anything. 

 

they're gong to make a ton of money because people won't pay close enough attention.

[Schildog]

well the not having an option not to tip is bullshit. 

[1nutkruk]

well the not having an option not to tip is bullshit. 

And should be illegal.

[Blarg]

this is sure to ruffle a few feathers, including my own.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/business/dollar3-tip-on-a-dollar4-cup-of-coffee-gratuities-grow-automatically.html?referrer=&_r=0

I never tip someone using an automated coffee maker. There is no special skill at Starbucks to put a cup under a nozzle and press a button.

[Schildog]

The article said no tip was an option.

 

****ing hell i read that part wrong, 

[2002_halos_II]

7-eleven cashiers had a tip jar on the counter around Christmas time. I didn't leave anything.

[arch stanton]

There should be an option to tip in cash so it's not automatically reported income and another that says you get whatever change I don't feel like carrying around.

[wopphil]

There should be an option to tip in cash so it's not automatically reported income and another that says you get whatever change I don't feel like carrying around.

So, tax evasion is ok?

[arch stanton]

So, tax evasion is ok?

Don't ask me. I'm not the CEO or CFO of anything.

[wopphil]

Don't ask me. I'm not the CEO or CFO of anything.

I was only half-joking. I suspect you wouldn't condone my employer paying me under the table to avoid tax liability.

[arch stanton]

Gee, I don't know. Can you help me compute the tax liability a $1 tip creates for a service industry employee?

[wopphil]

Gee, I don't know. Can you help me compute the tax liability a $1 tip creates for a service industry employee?

Come on, seriously? You aren't dumb, dude.

You think it is a $1 issue? How many billions of dollars in tips are given? How many billions of dollars in tax revenue would be lost by turning a blind eye to that?

How would you feel about attorney bonuses going untaxed?

[arch stanton]

It's not my responsibility to report other people's income. I like to give them the option. If you think she's evil then go make a citizen's arrest.

 

And what I feel about attorneys doesn't belong on a family website.

[gotbeer]

Coffee.  Pfft.  $1.35 at In N Out and I don't have to tip.  

[wopphil]

It's not my responsibility to report other people's income. I like to give them the option. If you think she's evil then go make a citizen's arrest.

And what I feel about attorneys doesn't belong on a family website.

As long as you are ok with less tax revenue and fewer social services, because that us exactly what your method would promote. I don't necessary have an issue with that.

My problem with doing things the way you propose us that it requires me to pay for the dishonesty of others. For every dollar other people short their taxes, people like me have to make up. And there are a shit ton of people in the service sector making more money than me (much of which is through tips).

[arch stanton]

That you would sweat the service workers who might skim a few bucks off their taxes instead of the giants who skim a few billion means I'm pretty much done with this exchange.

[wopphil]

That you would sweat the service workers who might skim a few bucks off their taxes instead of the giants who skim a few billion means I'm pretty much done with this exchange.

You are naive on this one dude. Do you know how many people pull $100,000+ in annual salary with a huge portion coming from tips? Collectively if they all cheat the system, billions and billions in revenue is lost.

[Blarg]

You only see six figure incomes with tips in the few very high end restaurants and strip clubs. The Starbucks barista is not taking home $70k in tips.

[wopphil]

You only see six figure incomes with tips in the few very high end restaurants and strip clubs. The Starbucks barista is not taking home $70k in tips.

True regarding most tipped workers, but there are plenty of tipped workers making very good money. Certain strippers, waiters/waitresses, drivers, hair stylists (lots of them), etc. And while the percentage of these people is small, if you lower the threshold to $65,000-70,000 it encompasses a lot more people (and a lot of tax revenue).

My points are only that (1) tips make up a huge percentage of income, and (2) people who get tipped should pay taxes on it the same way I pay taxes on my income.

[JAHV76]

If tips to a worker for service are below the federal gift threshold I don't see a problem with not taxing them.

[NrM]

True regarding most tipped workers, but there are plenty of tipped workers making very good money. Certain strippers, waiters/waitresses, drivers, hair stylists (lots of them), etc. And while the percentage of these people is small, if you lower the threshold to $65,000-70,000 it encompasses a lot more people (and a lot of tax revenue).

My points are only that (1) tips make up a huge percentage of income, and (2) people who get tipped should pay taxes on it the same way I pay taxes on my income.

To be fair, I don't believe most employees who earn their salary from tips receive any benefits.

I make shit for money but at least the federal benefits make up for some of it.

Edited February 5, 2015 by Poozy

[gotbeer]

The worst tippers in America live here

[nate]

yeah man, the blacks have really taken over Seattle and Minneapolis.

[Adam]

I saw lots of black dudes in Minneapolis. A fair amount of African dudes in Seattle. 

[Brandon]

This is hilarious

 

http://broscience.co/hilarious-facebook-page-bodybuilders-tipping/

 

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