****ing Oakland

[Glen]

They just keep on winning.  They lose two starting pitchers and pull two guys up who can post a low-3 ERA.  Their lineup is full of mediocre hitters who take turns coming through in the clutch.

 

****ing Oakland.  I hate them, and I hate them even more because I have to admire how well they do.

[Sully151]

I am going to say the same thing loads of others have said over the last few years.

They will come back down to earth and start playing to their ability.

It will have to be true sometime, right? Right?

[gotbeer]

Good teams play up to other teams abilities and challenges them.

 

Bad teams hope good teams falter so they can take advantage.

 

I am hoping the Angels are a good team, and just take it to the A's.

[Angel Oracle]

Beane > Dipoto

Melvin > Scioscia

Young > Butcher

Simple as that

[Stradling]

Beane > Dipoto

Melvin > Scioscia

Young > Butcher

Simple as that

AO are you good at your job because your boss is good?

[Chuck]

AO are you good at your job because your boss is good?

LOL. Nice Strads!

[ukyah]

to be fair to AO, that's not what he said. whether or not i agree, his point was basically the A's management is better than the Angels' management at each focal point.

[Stradling]

What we should do if we want to compete with the A's is trade Trout, Richards, Skaggs, Howie, Aybar, Calhoun. Then suck for a few years while those players develop. Then when their replacements are good trade them. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Ohtaniland]

What we should do if we want to compete with the A's is trade Trout, Richards, Skaggs, Howie, Aybar, Calhoun. Then suck for a few years while those players develop. Then when their replacements are good trade them. Wash, rinse, repeat.

I think the A's do a pretty good job of getting the best out of their players. It starts with good scouting, drafts, coaching and they avoid overpaying for players.

[Hollyw00d]

Rafy soriano blew the save for my fantasy team, which in turn bailed sonny gray out of a loss as well for the guy im facing.

so ya I'm extra pissed

[ukyah]

What we should do if we want to compete with the A's is trade Trout, Richards, Skaggs, Howie, Aybar, Calhoun. Then suck for a few years while those players develop. Then when their replacements are good trade them. Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

 

c'mon strad, this is a worthless response. you take it to an extreme and make your point sound childish. it doesn't seem like the angels maximize their talent, but the A's do, why is that? AO was saying, it may be the staff. that is neither a new nor ridiculous assertion. while i like many of the angel players, i too feel that this team underachieves.

[Stradling]

So then why didn't AO say, "Oakland has good coaching a good GM and a good Manager" instead of comparing them to the Angels?

[tdawg87]

Oakland will find ways to win no matter who is on their roster or who is coaching. I'd say a lot of it has to do with how the organization is run as a whole, but I'd say a lot of it also has to do with having golden horseshoes stuck up their asses.

[Stradling]

I respect the way they play but I hate them.

[Ohtaniland]

I respect the way they play but I hate them.

 

Cowgill and Green say hello.

[Stradling]

Cowgill and Green say hello.

Those are two examples of Beane not always coming out on top in trades. Someone suggested on here that Dipoto shouldn't make trades with GM's that are considered better than him. Trades like those make that a stupid philosophy.

[TroutAdell]

Billy Beane has put a plan in place for the entire organization that works. The minor leaguers are schooled in A's baseball and everyone buys in. The big league club is not loaded with stars but is built to perform the way they were trained.

I only hope that Dipoto can accomplish this with the Halos.

[Stradling]

The reports that came out about what Servais and Dipoto have been doing in the minors is encouraging.

[floplag]

Beane > Dipoto

Melvin > Scioscia

Young > Butcher

Simple as that

no.. it isnt.

coaches do make guys play THAT much better.  the find kinks, limits bad stretches.. but no coach ever made an all start out of a marginal player.

[DowningRules]

They will come back down to earth and start playing to their ability.

It will have to be true sometime, right? Right?

 

Yes, they will.  It's called the playoffs.

[HeavenlyHalos]

So then why didn't AO say, "Oakland has good coaching a good GM and a good Manager" instead of comparing them to the Angels?

 

Because we are fans of the Angels and Oakland has won the division the Angels are in the last two years? 

[RallyMo]

They've been doing this for years.

The best thing that's come out of it for them is a massively popular book, within the pages of which the Angels win the World Series.

The answer is that they'll keep winning until it matters.

[disarcina]

well, YES, Oakland does play in a ballpark that was significantly re-designed (not for the better in terms of being a baseball venue) by a guy who's motto was

 

"JUST WIN, BABY!"

 

and they are.

 

hats off (AGAIN) to Billy Beane who builds a team designed to win with what appear to most to be a rag-tag bunch.

 

but then, as Billy Beane himself has stated numerous time, it's  a team built to contend by mid-season, then some key guy roster additions at deadline time for the second half and pennant stretch and then , apparently, everything falls apart in the playoffs as the team is not built for the playoffs........

 

oh well.........shades of a few years back (might have been more than a few -- perhaps 2002) when the A's and Angels had just a torrid August/ September -- both just kept winning and despite the Angels playing something like .650 ball or better over that stretch -- they could not gain any ground on the A's.

 

This weekend's beat up of Toronto is a good sign for the Halos.......need to beat (at least win the series) consistently against these teams to contend............now if we can keep up THIS YEAR's pace against Houston as well as opposed to the relatively poor record we had against them last season........

[nando714]

Oakland is just a better ran organization than the Angels

Edited May 11, 2014 by nando714

[DW711]

They just keep on winning.  They lose two starting pitchers and pull two guys up who can post a low-3 ERA.  Their lineup is full of mediocre hitters who take turns coming through in the clutch.

 

****ing Oakland.  I hate them, and I hate them even more because I have to admire how well they do.

 

 

Look on the bright side, they should (at least according to the run differential) have a better record, but don't!

 

We'll see if Kazmir and Chavez hold up.

 

Only 125 games to go.