Dipoto Fixes Problems by Creating Bigger Ones (Angry rant)

[Corona]

"He's like the white Callaspo"

 

[Ohtaniland]

Jerry Dipoto is like Obamacare. He's having trouble dealing with all of the pre existing conditions and his PR campaign fails to address the real issues.

[DMVol]

Sometimes a GM has no choice but to follow the orders of the executives above him.

My apologies to Stoneman, if true...but a dumb move whether it was Stoneman or Taveras...same as Bourjos, whoever called that shot...

[Brent Maguire]

I just thought it provided an interesting insight into the events leading to Greinke's signing. I wasn't disagreeing with you.

Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. 

 

I remember reading that and finding it odd that a guy actually said he wanted to go to the highest bidder. Most players aren't openly honest about chasing money. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Uhh, Grienke flat out said he was going to go to the team that paid him the most money. And he did just that.

yep

Kudos to him for being honest about it. Bottom line, the team was prepared to vastly overpay. The dogs were prepared to overpay our overpay

[YouthofToday]

You don't trade a ton of future value for a 3 month rental to make a coin flip game. Landing in the wildcard game is making the playoffs in name only.

[Angel Oracle]

Freese is so underrated on these boards.

If he reverts to 2011-2012 form, then yes.

The worry is that 2013 is what he is from now on, and also that his off field issues will eventually affect his on field play.

Edited December 23, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

yep

Kudos to him for being honest about it. Bottom line, the team was prepared to vastly overpay. The dogs were prepared to overpay our overpay

And of course the Raviners also satisfied his liking SoCal.

The Hamilton signing will cost this org a lot more in the long run.

[GregAlso]

If he reverts to 2011-2012 form, then yes.

The worry is that 2013 is what he is from now on, and also that his off field issues will eventually affect his on field play.

If you read my most recent Inside Edge piece on this board you'd know what I'm about to post here.

If Freese only hits like he did in 2013 he would put up equal production to Trumbo in 2013. They both had a wRC+ 106 last year. They were both responsible for the same number of runs to their teams when park and league factors are averaged in. They were both 6% better than average last year. 2013 wasn't as good as previous years for Freese but it was still vastly better than the wRC+ 93 Callaspo put up at 3rd for us.

I wasn't going to post on this ridiculous thread because Failo is speaking from emotion only, not facts. He can "feel" what he likes but feelings aren't facts. On facts he is noticeably short. Statistically speaking he has used nothing pertinent to back up his points. Just his own "high opinion" because wthe Angels missed the postseason the last few years. Not worth even responding to really.

[rick99gtp]

Guess there is nothing newsworthy to talk about.  When will people get over DiPoto's moves?  Move on.

[Marsaka]

How can anyone be mad at the Walden trade? People wanted him dumped and he had some pretty bad control issues and Dipoto took a gamble that backfired.

 

Vargas for Morales worked out fine, we'd have been in the same position now regardless.

 

Trumbo trade was great, don't see how anyone could think otherwise. With the prices of SP these says, Dipoto got TWO starters for a one dimensional slugger.

 

Greinke trade was meh. I'd have happily gone without it but we were in a good playoff position and Dipoto gave us a chance at the division(or so we thought).

 

Freese trade seems decent so far. I agree with everyone about hating to give up Grichuk but I'm also happier to have Freese on our team than most are.

 

Blanton was by FAR his worst move. We knew he was mediocre AT BEST and we were trying to build a championship team.

 

The issue with Walden trade was if an excellent organization like the braves gives up on a pitcher like Hanson then that's obviously a red flag, Dipoto should know this, if he doesn't he has no business being GM.

 

Vargas for Morales didnt work out fine because Vargas turned out to be a pansy like Hanson and now the mariners get a compensation pick for morales instead of the angels getting one.

 

Too early to tell on the Trumbo trade, but with our history of trades Trumbo will probably end up being a perennial 50 homerun hitter while our 2 young pitchers never pan out.

 

Greinke trade wasn't that bad, have you guys watched Segura play?  Almost every single game I watched him he would boot a ball or throw it into the stands.  He would rarely stop any ball hit more than 1 foot to his left or right and most of the the time his errors were ruled "base hits".  He had a very good first 2 months with the bat, then crashed back down to reality.  i don't think he will be anything special.

 

Freese trade was bad, it actually made the team worse.  This infield defense scares me, I dont trust anyone there to make a routine play without making me nervous.

Edited December 23, 2013 by Marsaka

[Blarg]

Nice to see Marsaka picking up the slack here from the OP. For a moment I thought this thread might lose it's direction.

[Ohtaniland]

Sometimes a GM has no choice but to follow the orders of the executives above him.

Stop blaming Scioscia.

[Blarg]

Lolz.

[Troll Daddy]

I'm not buying the Houdini comment regarding the Trumbo trade but it was a trade that unfortunately had to be made. Improving our starting pitching was a absolute must for the team. Getting young pitchers under club control was key. Santiago should be a solid #4 type pitcher ... although, I'm not sold on Skaggs just yet. The kid has already been traded twice and his only 22 years old. ??

 

Bourjos was being traded no matter what ... he was in Trout's path and needed to go (plain & simple). I was happy to see he was traded for a third baseman. They should of traded Blanton and paid his salary instead of Grichuk lol

[fatkook]

Why does Shuck get a bad rap on these forums. I believe he is very good and is a great 4th outfield option.

[NrM]

Why does Shuck get a bad rap on these forums. I believe he is very good and is a great 4th outfield option.

 

 

What makes him very good?

[tomsred]

The worst of it all for me was the Blanton deal.  Most of the time it's better to do nothing than bring in a barely warm body to take up space, or in this case attempt to eat innings.  Dipoto is a intelligent, articulate, and and thoughtful guy, but relatively young and inexperienced for a GM.  Hopefully he learned from last year's mistakes.  This organization needs to stop signing players who just flat out disappear, like Wells, Blanton, Hanson, Kasmir and Mathews.  Not all of those belong to Dipoto, but it's the payments to players who are doing nothing, or are not even on the team any longer, that is the biggest burden; even more so than Pujols and Hamilton.

[fatkook]

What makes him very good?

he is fast. He is, IMO, a good hitter and he is balls out in the field

[TroutAdell]

Don't forget Madsen. A real big contributor. It is very difficult today to make changes without a solid farm system. The Angels need to draft well and develop pitchers from the last two drafts to be able to compete going forward. The FA market is only going to get worse and more expensive. At this point Dipoto has to hope that Pujols, Hamilton, Freese and Aybar rebound and Calhoun is a legitimate hitter.

[tomsred]

he is fast. He is, IMO, a good hitter and he is balls out in the field

I agree.  He's probably the best lead off hitter on the team behind Trout.  He's well down the list when it comes to run producing.  Some folks don't like the defensive routes he runs, but he's only a second year player.  I think he can improve defensively, but I can't see him getting much better offensively.

[NrM]

he is fast. He is, IMO, a good hitter and he is balls out in the field

 

Sounds like you'd make a great old school scout. Be proud of yourself. Scioscia would love you.

[Halofan]

I'm just excited about going into the new season and not having to watch Callaspo play third base for us... I don't understand why we didn't get rid of him long ago.

[Stradling]

Except Jespon never made the all star team and walden did!

So now we choose to give All Star game appearances some sort of relevancy.

[Stradling]

And I'm shocked that a moderator could be so misinformed about this team. Walden was an All Star who had one mediocre season. We traded him for known broken goods. I'm not sure why you chose to compare him to Jepsen, because they have very little in common. You're also wrong about Greinke. I suggest you read up on what happened.

Ok please explain to me how I'm wrong about Greinke.