Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[cysomeawfulpitcher]

3 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

No, only Charlie Sheen, oddly enough.

You're both wrong.  It's Rick Vaughn.

[Pancake Bear]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

Confirmed: Lion hangs out on AW.com

[CanadianHalo]

 

[Jason]

27 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

If that’s what they’re banking on then they should’ve traded Ohtani at the deadline 

Don't all teams bank on this?

[Warfarin]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

I'd rather have Hendriks than not have him, but it would be somewhat odd to trade Raisel Iglesias for Davidson and Chavez (who's no longer on the team) to get salary relief, then turn around a few months later and trade presumably more than someone at Davidson's level for Hendriks, who'll cost essentially the same as Iglesias for the next two seasons.  You'd still net out at one less year of a $15M+ commitment to a closer, but still seems like just shuffling chairs.

I agree it'd be rather odd on the surface, but I guess the difference is ultimately about 19mil less and 1 year less, so there's at least some kind of savings involved.  But of course, you also have to factor in acquisition cost, and I'm sure the cost to acquire Hendriks would be more than the return we got for Iglesias, and so on.

[Warfarin]

 

It is interesting to see Minasian actually state, "there are opportunities that maybe have not been discussed publicly."  I would imagine, if he were in the beginning stages of discussion, he would not say anything at all.  Perhaps this suggests that they are near some kind of agreement?  Probably too optimistic of me to say that, but we can only hope.

[Chuck]

Just heard from a good source that the Angels are exploring a couple trades with two different teams for a shortstop that is young and cost controllable. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, Chuckster70 said:

Just heard from a good source that the Angels are exploring a couple trades with two different teams for a shortstop that is young and cost controllable. 

Lion in Pacoima?   

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Just heard from a good source that the Angels are exploring a couple trades with two different teams for a shortstop that is young and cost controllable. 

Welcome to the Angels, Bo Bichette!  

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Lion in Pacoima?   

Lion in Middle Tennessee 

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

Lion in Middle Tennessee 

I'm going to Lion in ______ until one of you tells me to shut up.  Just sayin.

[Angels 1961]

8 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Just heard from a good source that the Angels are exploring a couple trades with two different teams for a shortstop that is young and cost controllable. 

Are they better than we have

[jsnpritchett]

8 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I agree it'd be rather odd on the surface, but I guess the difference is ultimately about 19mil less and 1 year less, so there's at least some kind of savings involved.  But of course, you also have to factor in acquisition cost, and I'm sure the cost to acquire Hendriks would be more than the return we got for Iglesias, and so on.

Yeah, the latter point is the big one for me.  You're likely going to have trade one very good or multiple good/very good prospects to get him.  Like I said, that ultimately just seems to be a lot of moving pieces for potentially "saving" ~$19M or whatever.

[Warfarin]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Are they better than we have

It'd be rather odd to facilitate a trade for a player who is worse than the ones you have, I would imagine.

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

Are they better than we have

Nah, they're gonna trade for shittier players just 'cuz.

[Angels 1961]

3 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Nah, they're gonna trade for shittier players just 'cuz.

Then would not have to give up much.

[Angelsfan1984]

13 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Just heard from a good source that the Angels are exploring a couple trades with two different teams for a shortstop that is young and cost controllable. 

Oneil cruz…Blink 4 times if I’m on the right track?

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Oneil cruz…Blink 4 times if I’m on the right track?

Lol.  We can try to speculate on who might fit this definition, but I'm guessing not Cruz.  I was thinking maybe a player on a team who is about to acquire a star SS?  The Cubs have been linked to all of the remaining 3 FA SSs, so maybe Hoerner..?  Although not likely, they could flip him in exchange for some of our young players to help improve their weaknesses.

[Chuck]

3 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Oneil cruz…Blink 4 times if I’m on the right track?

Damn I’d love that. 

[Warfarin]

Just now, mmc said:

 

And this could be the gateway to us maybe acquiring Hoerner.  Again, just spit-balling possibilities, but if the Cubs acquired both, they could flip Hoerner to us.

[mmc]

 

[CanadianHalo]

22 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Welcome to the Angels, Bo Bichette!  

Man that was the first player I thought of when I read that tweet 

[Chuck]

29 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Just heard from a good source that the Angels are exploring a couple trades with two different teams for a shortstop that is young and cost controllable. 

Just to give you a clue as to which one of the two SS’s the Angels are targeting in a trade. 

 

[Erstad Grit]

18 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

It'd be rather odd to facilitate a trade for a player who is worse than the ones you have, I would imagine.

We traded Napoli and Rivera for wells

[CanadianHalo]

Hoerner and Chisholm are my legit guesses