Angels being sued by two Dominican players

[Angel Oracle]

If it wasn’t the Halos involved, would this be as newsworthy?

So much has happened under Arte Moreno’s watch, that the media seems to sniff anything Halos related.

As mentioned in here, this happens a lot.   Doesn’t make it necessarily right, but just the same.

Edited September 8, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[failos]

2 hours ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

This is so on brand. I was actually starting to get concerned that we haven't had a scandal in a few minutes. 

Fixed

[Tank]

29 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Read the contract.  It's right there in the small print right after both parties agree than Tank can't take the last chocolate zinger.

i should've hired @wopphil to be my attorney before signing. i'm and idoit.

[jsnpritchett]

15 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

If it wasn’t the Halos involved, would this be as newsworthy?

So much has happened under Arte Moreno’s watch, that the media seems to sniff anything Halos related.

As mentioned in here, this happens a lot.   Doesn’t make it necessarily right, but just the same.

To the best of my knowledge, players don't typically file suit when it does occur (someone please correct me if there have been other instances like this in the past, though).  That's why it's "newsworthy"--not because it's the Angels (though that's obviously why it's of particular interest here).

[Angel Oracle]

4 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

To the best of my knowledge, players don't typically file suit when it does occur (someone please correct me if there have been other instances like this in the past, though).  That's why it's "newsworthy"--not because it's the Angels (though that's obviously why it's of particular interest here).

True

I just don’t see the Halos losing int’l signees, because then a lot of teams would have to lose them.  

Can’t rule one way for one team, and ignore the other occurrences.

Main thing that should come from this is FINALLY having int’l prospects be drafted like with domestic prospects.  Longgggg overdue!

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

True

I just don’t see the Halos losing int’l signees, because then a lot of teams would have to lose them.  

Can’t rule one way for one team, and ignore the other occurrences.

Main thing that should come from this is FINALLY having int’l prospects be drafted like with domestic prospects.  Longgggg overdue!

Yeah, I'm not saying anything about losing signees, etc.  Just say that it's unique because the suit was filed--and it was filed in the Dominican Republic, not here in the U.S.  I know nothing about DR law, but even if the players prevail, it might not actually change anything here in the long run.

[Inside Pitch]

50 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Rada and DeJesus had really solid DSL seasons.    Just sayin

Good point...  

Fanas 18 -- .257/.330/.297
Pavon 18 -- .254/.340/.283

N Rada 16 -- .311/.446/.439
DeJesus 17 -- .272/.362/.467

Everyone was in the DOSL.

Edge: Lowell

[Jeff Fletcher]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

That's the only thing that's newsworthy -- because the shit happens all the time.

That’s what I thought but I checked in with an exec from another team and was told that it does not happen. Teams sometimes change the bonus amount if there’s an injury or something. But they don’t back out entirely. 
 

i quoted this source is my story saying when the Angels did it, the industry noticed and it was considered “a bad look.”

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

That’s what I thought but I checked in with an exec from another team and was told that it does not happen. Teams sometimes change the bonus amount if there’s an injury or something. But they don’t back out entirely. 
 

i quoted this source is my story saying when the Angels did it, the industry noticed and it was considered “a bad look.”

Well, hang another black eye on the Angels then.  

[Jay]

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

Well, hang another black eye on the Angels then.  

Bunch of fucking amateurs.

 

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Well, hang another black eye on the Angels then.  

Someone best tell ESPN because from their article...

Despite the growing prevalence of broken deals -- players, too, have backed out of agreements with teams to reap larger paydays elsewhere -- the cases of Fañas and Pavon are the first known to have multiple hearings in the Dominican justice system, where the law gives greater weight to verbal contracts and their enforceability than the United States, according to lawyers who practice there.

[Tank]

i wish baldoquin backed out of his deal with us.

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 hours ago, Taylor said:

Terrible, evil practice to promise the world to vulnerable and impoverished families and then being like, "Nah, go f yourselves." I hope the Angels get sued for every cent they promised to these guys, and that this practice gets eradicated from the MLB.

Did anything the Angels did stop these two from signing with someone else?

It's not like as soon as they were eligible, they turned down other offers because of this.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Did anything the Angels did stop these two from signing with someone else?

It's not like as soon as they were eligible, they turned down other offers because of this.

They both signed with other teams, and one of them signed with the guy that made the offer while in Anaheim -- Billy Eppler.

[UndertheHalo]

I saw that the Angels were connected to a top 10 guy this year ? It was one of the podcast dumb asses tho so I wasn’t sure if I should take it seriously.  

[eligrba]

5 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Some of you really should read the story before commenting.   

 

 

[Angels 1961]

4 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

If it wasn’t the Halos involved, would this be as newsworthy?

So much has happened under Arte Moreno’s watch, that the media seems to sniff anything Halos related.

As mentioned in here, this happens a lot.   Doesn’t make it necessarily right, but just the same.

It doesn't happen a lot.

[Angels 1961]

Let's ask Roger Lodge thinks. He knows everything halo baseball.

[BTH]

6 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

That’s what I thought but I checked in with an exec from another team and was told that it does not happen. Teams sometimes change the bonus amount if there’s an injury or something. But they don’t back out entirely. 
 

i quoted this source is my story saying when the Angels did it, the industry noticed and it was considered “a bad look.”

Does that “exec from another team” work for the Seattle Mariners?

(and while I don’t expect you to give away info about your sources, if the exec is from the Mariners, I think it’d be fair to question the level of truth in that exec’s quote)

[Jeff Fletcher]

16 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Does that “exec from another team” work for the Seattle Mariners?

(and while I don’t expect you to give away info about your sources, if the exec is from the Mariners, I think it’d be fair to question the level of truth in that exec’s quote)

No

[ScottT]

international draft ftw.

Handshake deals with 14 year olds are not it. 

[BTH]

what was the result of this?

I don’t recall seeing any follow-up.

[AngeLifer]

On 9/8/2022 at 9:34 AM, gotbeer said:

The good news for the Angels is, we have no international presence in scouting.  So how could we renig on a deal when no one was there.

may want to go with correct spelling renege

[ten ocho recon scout]

3 hours ago, BTH said:

what was the result of this?

I don’t recall seeing any follow-up.

They dropped the lawsuit. They said "on second thought, we're glad we didn't sign there."

 

[m0nkey]

3 hours ago, BTH said:

what was the result of this?

I don’t recall seeing any follow-up.

Judge forced Arte to not sell the team.