MLB suspends Trevor Bauer for TWO seasons

[Inside Pitch]

9 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Pretty sure that's the Dodgers version of Pontius Pilate's speech.

[mmc]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

The kids today like to punch each other when they have sex. 

I don't

[Don]

Obviously this seems ridiculous at first glance. And I hope Bauer's lawyers get to eat MLB ass-first. I do have a few clarifying questions for the AW Labor Law Pro's though. Looking at you @cals

1. Does MLB need a definitive, legally sound reason to suspend Bauer? Like are they doing this because they can interpret their code of conduct policies however they choose and basically suspend anybody they think has done something "bad" without having to legally defend that decision? Another hypothetical example being like a current player going on an expletive-laden rant about their ex-wife or something in a Youtube video. Not technically illegal or punishable, but could MLB be like, "Nah, we're suspending this asshole"?

2. If a judge (or some similar entity) determined that Bauer was suspended not because he did anything wrong from a criminal perspective, but simply because the league found his sexual tastes to be unpalatable to their brand, could one make an argument that he was being discriminated against on the basis of sex? Like in the protected class sexual orientation sort of way. Like could being a kinky dude be part of one's orientation, and thus not discriminate-against-able?

[Angels 1961]

Justice has been served. Sorry you feel bad for Bauer. Times have changed and they certainly have for Bauer. He will never pitch again in MLB. Know who you are hitting so they do not run to police. Costly mistake for Bauer. You or I do not know what MLB has in this case, even when times have changed you know that. 

[Angels 1961]

Ken Harrelson just said it HE GONE

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Don said:

Obviously this seems ridiculous at first glance. And I hope Bauer's lawyers get to eat MLB ass-first. I do have a few clarifying questions for the AW Labor Law Pro's though. Looking at you @cals

1. Does MLB need a definitive, legally sound reason to suspend Bauer? Like are they doing this because they can interpret their code of conduct policies however they choose and basically suspend anybody they think has done something "bad" without having to legally defend that decision? Another hypothetical example being like a current player going on an expletive-laden rant about their ex-wife or something in a Youtube video. Not technically illegal or punishable, but could MLB be like, "Nah, we're suspending this asshole"?

2. If a judge (or some similar entity) determined that Bauer was suspended not because he did anything wrong from a criminal perspective, but simply because the league found his sexual tastes to be unpalatable to their brand, could one make an argument that he was being discriminated against on the basis of sex? Like in the protected class sexual orientation sort of way. Like could be being a kinky dude be part of one's orientation, and thus not discriminate-against-able?

CBA language wins.

[Lou]

Marcelo Ozuna was suspended for 20 games for beating his wife. 

[Don]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

CBA language wins.

I'm guessing there has to be some sort of interpretation applied to it though. And that has to have some sort of limit to it. I highly doubt this very specific scenario is outlined in the CBA.

[Lou]

Just now, Lou said:

Marcelo Ozuna was suspended for 20 games for beating his wife. 

Btw, his suspension was retroactive and included the games where he was placed on administrative leave. 

Baseball sucks. 

[beatlesrule]

How long will it take for Bauer's people to sue MLB and then get the final outcome?

[Erstad Grit]

28 minutes ago, WicketMaiden said:

They suddenly have $40m in extra payroll to spend. A nice budget for a franchise that likes to trade for fantastic prospects/players packaged with millstone bad contracts from the low payroll teams. 

yup

Watch them trade $hit to the Reds for Castillo, Moose, Votto, Mahle and some good prospects 

[Inside Pitch]

5 minutes ago, Don said:

I'm guessing there has to be some sort of interpretation applied to it though. And that has to have some sort of limit to it. I highly doubt this very specific scenario is outlined in the CBA.

You're right, it likely isn't, which is why this will be pretty interesting.

[gurn67]

11 minutes ago, Lou said:

Marcelo Ozuna was suspended for 20 games for beating his wife. 

Which was witnessed by two police officers. I thought at the time he would never play another game in MLB, and he's already treated like nothing ever happened.

[Don]

And the amount he could reasonably sue for is massive. A quarter bill isn't unreasonable. Doubt he would've made that much more in his career, but you could certainly make an argument this whole thing has cost him that much in potential earnings.

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[Hubs]

39 minutes ago, cals said:

Understand this: Unless MLB has information we don't have, which it may, then it has suspended Bauer for engaging in legal, consensual sexual behavior.

This is exactly what they have. They have video or something which shows the rough sex, and they don't want it coming out. Or they have multiple complaints and victims who've come forward. Just cuz they don't have enough to prosecute him in LA or are letting him off doesn't mean that they don't have something we've not seen. In fact, a 2 year suspension without credit, means they do. Ozuna just got 20 games and I can't imagine they would go 324 without something more than Bauer's asshole attitude.

[beatlesrule]

10 minutes ago, cals said:

Years.  But at that point he will be rich beyond even his own wildest dreams.  And since we know he dreams about punching vaginas, you know it’s a lot of money.

I meant the appeals process or whatever it is called.

[Inside Pitch]

"Yes, we have labor peace" -- MLB and MLBPA day the lockout ended.

"Hold my beer" -- Trevor Bauer

[Erstad Grit]

5 minutes ago, gurn67 said:

Which was witnessed by two police officers. I thought at the time he would never play another game in MLB, and he's already treated like nothing ever happened.

It's all about personalities. Ozuna showed the ability to say the right things, take the classes, and shut the F up.

Bauer doesn't seem like a guy who would do the dance. 

Essentially Puig was ousted for similar reasons. 

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, cals said:

It’s possible they do.  I imagine we will find out.  Personally I doubt it, but we will see.

If after 9-10 months of investigating, they level an incredibly harsh and unprecedented penalty, they have something. 

[Lou]

Just now, Erstad Grit said:

It's all about personalities. Ozuna showed the ability to say the right things, take the classes, and shut the F up.

Bauer doesn't seem like a guy who would do the dance. 

Essentially Puig was ousted for similar reasons. 

Ozuna only did the classes because they were court-ordered. He was arrested and charged - two things that never happened to Bauer. 

[Lou]

Just now, Hubs said:

If after 9-10 months of investigating, they level an incredibly harsh and unprecedented penalty, they have something. 

And the police didn't?

[Hubs]

Just now, Lou said:

And the police didn't?

I'm guessing there were other allegations/victims we don't know about or video from an encounter in another jurisdiction.

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, cals said:

Ok.  You’re making an assumption.  I’m going to wait and see.  

Yup, Its' my opinion.

[Lou]

Proclaiming your innocence is now considered an asshole attitude.

Got it. 

[Lou]

Just now, Hubs said:

I'm guessing there were other allegations/victims we don't know about or video from an encounter in another jurisdiction.

Then why have those other jurisdictions not charged him?