The sickos that like the runner at 2B rule hate baseball

[Docwaukee]

take away a defender every inning 

[Stradling]

Away team starts with a runner on 2nd in the 10th but the home team doesn’t.  If you lose at home that is on you.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

15 hours ago, Torridd said:

Jeff, do you like this rule?

I didn't think I would, but it doesn't bother me at all. 

I think there are some other solutions to the problem (like expanding the rosters after a game gets to a certain length), but I really don't think it's a big deal. There are 162 games. I don't think we need to treat them all as if they are so sacred.

It's a game. All rules in all sports are sort of silly and arbitrary if you think about it. Why are there three bases and not four? Why are there nine innings? Why are there nine fielders? These things weren't sent down on tablets from God. Some dude made them up. Other dudes changed them occasionally. 

As long as the rules are the same for both teams, and everyone knows what they are going in, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

[m0nkey]

You thought the current rule was dumb, coming soon:

 

[PattyD22]

27 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

You thought the current rule was dumb, coming soon:

 

Oh sweet Jesus....the baseball equivalent of a soccer shootout.  What a moronic decision.

[T.G.]

18 hours ago, True Grich said:

Might as well settle extra innings with a homerun derby.

 

18 hours ago, Jay said:

Don't give 'em any ideas!

LOL

Edited April 27, 2021 by True Grich

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, m0nkey said:

You thought the current rule was dumb, coming soon:

 

https://www.milb.com/pioneer/news/pioneer-league-installs-new-rules-for-2021

[Inside Pitch]

9 hours ago, Dochalo said:

take away a defender every inning 

Angels would have an advantage.  They already seemingly play without a catcher.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, m0nkey said:

You thought the current rule was dumb, coming soon:

 

Suddenly my Enter the Dragon ideas dont seem so stupid, huh A holes?

[Jeff Fletcher]

10 hours ago, arch stanton said:

They settle the game on penalty kicks after they play an overtime period. At least give them 12 innings before the baserunner crap

Sure you could do that. But once you've philosophically opened the door to a non-traditional ending, it's just splitting hairs when you do it.

[DCAngelsFan]

9 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

You thought the current rule was dumb, coming soon:

 

Baseball's version of penalty kicks   

 

[T.G.]

Baseball is a game that is rich in tradition.  It's one of the things that makes it so appealing to some fans.  To discount that is to basically turn your nose up at something that's a part of its history.  That doesn't mean baseball fans think they're "too good" to see change, but any changes should consider the traditions of the game.

Baseball more than any other sport is also rich in its reverence of statistics and changes like having a runner start the game at 2nd base in extra innings impacts historical statistics.  A lot of fans don't like that. Poo poo it all you want - but it's a significant part of being a baseball fan (for some).  Seven inning games, relief pitchers having to pitch to 3 batters, etc. all have an impact on the historical significance of stats. 

I don't know who the all-time leader is in runs scored, but I'm guessing it's Rickey Henderson.  Let's say that during this period of time where runners start on 2nd base in extras allows someone to eventually pass Henderson as the all-time runs scored leader by 5 runs (or whatever number) and that they achieved that because of this rule.  That seems wrong.

 

That being said, the game has still evolved over the years.  The use of the DH is a prime example of that - but even that has fans divided on whether or not it's a good thing. 

I like to see changes that make the games more competitive and balanced from an offensive and defensive point of view.  Things like lowering the mound in 1969.  It's also why I'd like to see a universal DH.

My hope is that these current changes are only in existence because of the pandemic and once that's under control - they'll go away.  At the end of the day, I just don't like the changes.  It makes the game feel less organic.

 

 

[Angel Oracle]

Baseball is the one American sport that has tradition written all over it.

Evolving (like the DH) is one thing.

But gimmicking the end of games is totally another, and needs to be avoided if possible.   Just suspend games after the 11th or 12th inning, and ditch the stupid runner on 2nd rule!

What is the % of extra innings games that go beyond 11 or 12 innings?   Can’t be very many.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[Tank]

when the NHL went to 3x3 in overtime before having a shootout, i thought it was idiotic and i wanted to hate the idea. well, here we are xx years later and i don't hate it at all. 3x3 is exciting, and with the wides-open ice, it's been really fun to watch. games still go to shootouts, but i'm not as bothered by it as i once was.

for baseball, i'm still not sure about having a runner start on second  but i don't hate it. i don't know if it's the best solution available, but if it prevents teams from having 16 inning games, i'm fully in favor of it. 

and i think if we're going to have 7 inning doubleheaders, then a no-hit game ought to count as a legit no-hitter. it's not the pitchers' fault that the overlords in NYC mandated the game be shorter. 

[Angel Oracle]

Personally, ditch the 7 inning DHs after this season.

it’s so HS level thought.

There shouldn’t be many DHs next season anyway.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[PattyD22]

4 minutes ago, Tank said:

when the NHL went to 3x3 in overtime before having a shootout, i thought it was idiotic and i wanted to hate the idea. well, here we are xx years later and i don't hate it at all. 3x3 is exciting, and with the wides-open ice, it's been really fun to watch. games still go to shootouts, but i'm not as bothered by it as i once was.

for baseball, i'm still not sure about having a runner start on second  but i don't hate it. i don't know if it's the best solution available, but if it prevents teams from having 16 inning games, i'm fully in favor of it. 

and i think if we're going to have 7 inning doubleheaders, then a no-hit game ought to count as a legit no-hitter. it's not the pitchers' fault that the overlords in NYC mandated the game be shorter. 

I somewhat agree with the hockey example @Tankbut the thing is, the NHL only does this in the regular season.  In the playoffs, it’s back to sudden death.  
 

So if baseball just did this for the regular season, I suppose I could embrace it, as long as when the playoffs come around, it reverts back to normal baseball rules.

Edited April 27, 2021 by PattyD22

[Stradling]

I don’t mind the 7 inning double headers. 

[Tank]

9 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

I somewhat agree with the hockey example @Tankbut the thing is, the NHL only does this in the regular season.  In the playoffs, it’s back to sudden death.  
 

So if baseball just did this for the regular season, I suppose I could embrace it, as long as when the playoffs come around, it reverts back to normal baseball rules.

that's a very fair point, patty. i'd support that for extra innings in the post season.

[Jeff Fletcher]

26 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

I somewhat agree with the hockey example @Tankbut the thing is, the NHL only does this in the regular season.  In the playoffs, it’s back to sudden death.  
 

So if baseball just did this for the regular season, I suppose I could embrace it, as long as when the playoffs come around, it reverts back to normal baseball rules.

I don’t think anyone has ever suggested using this rule in the postseason. 

[Taylor]

13 hours ago, Dochalo said:

take away a defender every inning 

They could have Scioscia on standby to come in and call for the five-man infield, which works 0.01% of the time.

[Lou]

Mandatory ROC for every runner in extra innings. 

[T.G.]

54 minutes ago, Lou said:

Mandatory ROC for every runner in extra innings. 

ROC?

[T.G.]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

I don’t mind the 7 inning double headers. 

You're dead to me.

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, True Grich said:

ROC?

Run On Contact 

Where have you been?

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Run On Contact 

Where have you been?