The sickos that like the runner at 2B rule hate baseball

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

I find it odd that people who claim to love baseball want to watch less of it. 

After seeing our pen the past few years, I think I understand that view.

When Bundy gave up that home run yesterday I threw my arms up in disgust. Not at bundy, but at whatever asshole invented the rules that you have to let the game go to the bottom of the 7th.

[Angel Oracle]

Do we really need long play reviews?

Cut the time to say 20 seconds per review?   And limit reviews per game?

Is MLB even enforcing the pitch clock?

Batters need to stop stepping out of the box so much.

Those will cut down the time, and at least allow regular baseball in innings 10 and 11.

[T.G.]

47 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Do we really need long play reviews?

Cut the time to say 20 seconds per review?   And limit reviews per game?

Do you want them to get the calls right or just be quick?  You can't have it both ways.  And yes, I know sometimes they still get it wrong.

[Jeff Fletcher]

This rule was not made to shorten games. It was made to prevent teams from killing their pitching staff with a 16-inning game. 
 

Don’t you all remember how screwed the Angels were after that 17-inning Orioles game where Griffin Canning had to pitch in relief?

In Covid times, they wanted to minimize roster moves. 
 

Also, my argument about this “non traditional” thing is look at the World Cup. Soccer is the most historically ingrained sport on the planet and the World Cup is the most important event, and they still settle games by penalty kicks, which are just a gimmick and not actual soccer. 
 

So given that, it seems pretty silly for baseball fans to say they’re too good to have one of 162 regular season games decided by something other than the straight traditional game. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

7 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Do you want them to get the calls right or just be quick?  You can't have it both ways.  And yes, I know sometimes they still get it wrong.

Disagree 

Again. Me as the commish

Quit spoiling these people. Bring on Bolo

 

[Second Base]

3 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

This rule was not made to shorten games. It was made to prevent teams from killing their pitching staff with a 16-inning game. 
 

Don’t you all remember how screwed the Angels were after that 17-inning Orioles game where Griffin Canning had to pitch in relief?

In Covid times, they wanted to minimize roster moves. 
 

Also, my argument about this “non traditional” thing is look at the World Cup. Soccer is the most historically ingrained sport on the planet and the World Cup is the most important event, and they still settle games by penalty kicks, which are just a gimmick and not actual soccer. 
 

So given that, it seems pretty silly for baseball fans to say they’re too good to have one of 162 regular season games decided by something other than the straight traditional game. 

Couldn't there be a compromise? I mean I know it pisses off both parties, but perhaps play the 10th normal. The 11th with a runner on first. The 12th with a runner on second. Thirteenth with a runner on third. Fourteenth with second and third. Fifteenth with the bases loaded. 

Purists get the inning opportunity they want and an additional inning without a significant advantage in scoring opportunity before a runner starts on second. Those clamoring for change will see most games end by the 12th inning and preserve arms. 

No one leaves happy. Compromise.

[UndertheHalo]

33 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

This rule was not made to shorten games. It was made to prevent teams from killing their pitching staff with a 16-inning game. 
 

Don’t you all remember how screwed the Angels were after that 17-inning Orioles game where Griffin Canning had to pitch in relief?

In Covid times, they wanted to minimize roster moves. 
 

Also, my argument about this “non traditional” thing is look at the World Cup. Soccer is the most historically ingrained sport on the planet and the World Cup is the most important event, and they still settle games by penalty kicks, which are just a gimmick and not actual soccer. 
 

So given that, it seems pretty silly for baseball fans to say they’re too good to have one of 162 regular season games decided by something other than the straight traditional game. 

No.  You’re silly.  Shit sucks. 

[Jay]

  

33 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

This rule was not made to shorten games. It was made to prevent teams from killing their pitching staff with a 16-inning game. 

Eh, if you're burning out your pitching staff in extras it's because your offense sucks.

 

[T.G.]

31 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

So given that, it seems pretty silly for baseball fans to say they’re too good to have one of 162 regular season games decided by something other than the straight traditional game. 

No one is saying "we're too good..."  I just don't like it.  Most people just don't like it.  You might think it's "silly" - but I still don't like it.  I feel like it cheapens the game some how.  Might as well settle extra innings with a homerun derby.

If they're worried about killing their pitching staff, expand the rosters. 

[Jay]

1 minute ago, True Grich said:

Might as well settle extra innings with a homerun derby.

Don't give 'em any ideas!

[Jay]

Just settle extra innings with a coin-flip.

Or rock, scissors, paper, best of 5.

[T.G.]

One more thing... I don't give a rip about soccer.

Just saying.

[ten ocho recon scout]

40 minutes ago, Jay said:

Just settle extra innings with a coin-flip.

Or rock, scissors, paper, best of 5.

Again. Everything you need to fix this game is in enter the dragon

Also. If all teams played on Dr Kwons death island, there wouldnt be covid outbreaks.

 

[Taylor]

57 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Might as well settle extra innings with a homerun derby.

Or an exit velocity duel.

[Jay]

If you want to be like soccer, they can do some sort of penalty hit thing.

Set the ball up on a tee, and then have a goal at 2nd base.

If the hitter can hit the ball past the 2nd baseman into the goal, he scores a point.

 

[Torridd]

18 hours ago, ScottT said:

I don't like it, but I have a feeling it may stick around.  I'd like to see a compromise... maybe start it it the 12th.  

I can go for that, but as it is, it's basically forcing teams to score. What's the percentage of scoring when you have a man on 2nd with no outs? It's got to be at least 60%. If people want to go home early, let them go. I hope they're keeping stats, if this move really keeps people in the stands. My guess the move doesn't change much. People who want to leave early will continue to do that. 

[Torridd]

8 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

I remember double headers being scheduled 4 or 5 a year. In those days pitchers threw 140 to 170 pitches a game. Now a pitcher gives up his second hit in 7th inn (Heaney on Friday) a manager will pull him from game. Did the players union also approve this rule? The game has changed so much in last 25 years. Fans today want quicker games so I also blame fans for changes. I do not know if this rule is for just this year or long term. I do not like this rule.

I think they'll get rid of it soon. It seems that Covid birthed this. Maybe when it goes away, this will too.

[Torridd]

2 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

This rule was not made to shorten games. It was made to prevent teams from killing their pitching staff with a 16-inning game. 
 

Don’t you all remember how screwed the Angels were after that 17-inning Orioles game where Griffin Canning had to pitch in relief?

In Covid times, they wanted to minimize roster moves. 
 

Also, my argument about this “non traditional” thing is look at the World Cup. Soccer is the most historically ingrained sport on the planet and the World Cup is the most important event, and they still settle games by penalty kicks, which are just a gimmick and not actual soccer. 
 

So given that, it seems pretty silly for baseball fans to say they’re too good to have one of 162 regular season games decided by something other than the straight traditional game. 

Jeff, do you like this rule?

[m0nkey]

I kind of like it, along with the 7 inning double headers.

 

Sue me

[Torridd]

21 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

I kind of like it, along with the 7 inning double headers.

 

Sue me

You're Sue.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Torridd said:

You're Sue.

I really hate myself for laughing.

[Lou]

27 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Jeff, do you like this rule?

I would think he's for anything that would end his night sooner. 

[disarcina]

no REAL baseball fan likes this rule.

or the seven inning double header rule

or the gotta pitch to three hitters rule - no more LHP one batter specialists.

what's next ? Each bench player has to get one at bat and an inning in the field?

If they are going to put 'youth baseball' type rules into place -- the one rule I might not mind is to allow more liberalized pinch runner rule which would allow a bench player to pinch run for a player (perhaps the DH or even the pitcher in inter-league games at NL Parks ) and then that player could remain in the game.  It would take slow DHs (doesn't have to be the DH but most times perhaps would be) off the base paths and pitchers as well.  

I am not necessarily advocating for that rule change but it's better than runner at second base stuff.

 

 

[ScottT]

5 hours ago, Lou said:

I would think he's for anything that would end his night sooner. 

All of them are.

Kinda sorta maybe biased. 

Those complaints are tired.

With all due respect. 

[arch stanton]

10 hours ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

This rule was not made to shorten games. It was made to prevent teams from killing their pitching staff with a 16-inning game. 
 

Don’t you all remember how screwed the Angels were after that 17-inning Orioles game where Griffin Canning had to pitch in relief?

In Covid times, they wanted to minimize roster moves. 
 

Also, my argument about this “non traditional” thing is look at the World Cup. Soccer is the most historically ingrained sport on the planet and the World Cup is the most important event, and they still settle games by penalty kicks, which are just a gimmick and not actual soccer. 
 

So given that, it seems pretty silly for baseball fans to say they’re too good to have one of 162 regular season games decided by something other than the straight traditional game. 

They settle the game on penalty kicks after they play an overtime period. At least give them 12 innings before the baserunner crap