Cleveland Indians changing their team name

[namssa]

I don't know why anyone cares.  They can change their name to anything they want and for any reason.  Stanford did fine when they changed their name from Indians to Cardinal.   Washington Bullets changed to the Wizards.  No one cares about the old name in a few years.  Who here is butt hurt that Houston changed their name from the Colt 45s to the Astros?

[AngelsLakersFan]

How about the Cleveland Colonists ... that might help bring about a much more winning tradition.

[Inside Pitch]

Dahkota Brown became the first Native student to be the Stanford Tree in 2018.   

[Blarg]

9 hours ago, Don said:

The Texans were not well-liked.

History just keeps repeating itself.

[Cosmo_Kramer]

3 hours ago, Mark PT said:

Hold a national vote among all native americans and ask if this is offensive. If it is, then change the name. If not, then dont. THese SJWs need to be told that they dont get their way.

"The National Congress of American Indians and over 1,500 national Native organizations and advocates have called for a ban on all Native imagery, names, mascots, terms, redface, arrows, feathers, and appropriation of Native culture in sports. The joint letter included over 100 Native-led organizations, as well as tribal leaders and members of over 150 federally recognized tribes, reflecting a consensus among Native Americans that Native mascots are harmful."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_mascot_controversy

Perhaps this will suffice?

[Dtwncbad]

20 minutes ago, Cosmo_Kramer said:

"The National Congress of American Indians and over 1,500 national Native organizations and advocates have called for a ban on all Native imagery, names, mascots, terms, redface, arrows, feathers, and appropriation of Native culture in sports. The joint letter included over 100 Native-led organizations, as well as tribal leaders and members of over 150 federally recognized tribes, reflecting a consensus among Native Americans that Native mascots are harmful."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_mascot_controversy

Perhaps this will suffice?

Yeah no.

The backlash against these things is, at some point in your life, you realize that the vast majority of these “do gooders” who crusade for stuff like name changes don’t ever really want to do anything that matters.  They just want to be a part of some symbolic thing so they can convince themselves they have done something important.  They are addicted to the self-celebration and allergic to real work.

Changing a team name is a perfect example of this.

And honestly there are lots of opposing studies and polls that show fairly conclusively that Native Americans really flying give a shit about this, and are actually annoyed that anyone would bother with this when they have real issues that need real work and real resources to solve.

[Taylor]

30 minutes ago, Cosmo_Kramer said:

"The National Congress of American Indians and over 1,500 national Native organizations and advocates have called for a ban on all Native imagery, names, mascots, terms, redface, arrows, feathers, and appropriation of Native culture in sports. The joint letter included over 100 Native-led organizations, as well as tribal leaders and members of over 150 federally recognized tribes, reflecting a consensus among Native Americans that Native mascots are harmful."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_mascot_controversy

Perhaps this will suffice?

Wait, I thought it was just SJWs calling for these name changes.

[tdawg87]

5 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Yeah no.

The backlash against these things is, at some point in your life, you realize that the vast majority of these “do gooders” who crusade for stuff like name changes don’t ever really want to do anything that matters.  They just want to be a part of some symbolic thing so they can convince themselves they have done something important.  They are addicted to the self-celebration and allergic to real work.

Changing a team name is a perfect example of this.

And honestly there are lots of opposing studies and polls that show fairly conclusively that Native Americans really flying give a shit about this, and are actually annoyed that anyone would bother with this when they have real issues that need real work and real resources to solve.

Can you provide a link to these opposing studies and polls? I'd love to read them.

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

Can you provide a link to these opposing studies and polls? I'd love to read them.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/Dtwncbad/

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Can you provide a link to these opposing studies and polls? I'd love to read them.

And please don't tell me to look it up myself. I'm terrible at finding stuff like this online

[Lou]

1 hour ago, namssa said:

I don't know why anyone cares.  They can change their name to anything they want and for any reason.  Stanford did fine when they changed their name from Indians to Cardinal.   Washington Bullets changed to the Wizards.  No one cares about the old name in a few years.  Who here is butt hurt that Houston changed their name from the Colt 45s to the Astros?

Me 

[Dtwncbad]

25 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Can you provide a link to these opposing studies and polls? I'd love to read them.

Here we go again with "link!" responsibilities.

You have google.  I know you do.  If YOU are interested in the data, YOU can find it faster than I can round it up and deliver it to you.

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Here we go again with "link!" responsibilities.

You have google.  I know you do.  If YOU are interested in the data, YOU can find it faster than I can round it up and deliver it to you.

Nope. Not how it works.

[Dtwncbad]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Nope. Not how it works.

Works fine for me.  I am not the unsatisfied one.

[tdawg87]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

Works fine for me.  I am not the unsatisfied one.

Correct. You're the one who makes up bullshit and can't provide sources.

Keep living in your fantasy world.

[Cosmo_Kramer]

26 minutes ago, Lou said:

Me 

You and afroman

[Taylor]

11 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Here we go again with "link!" responsibilities.

You have google.  I know you do.  If YOU are interested in the data, YOU can find it faster than I can round it up and deliver it to you.

If you make the claim, you have the burden of proof. 

[Dtwncbad]

8 minutes ago, Taylor said:

If you make the claim, you have the burden of proof. 

Only if I am trying to compensate for your laziness and interested in changing your mind.  I would hope if YOU were interested in the data you might spend the 12 seconds looking into it.

Do whatever you want.

[failos]

Cleveland Poppycocks

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

Only if I am trying to compensate for your laziness and interested in changing your mind.  I would hope if YOU were interested in the data you might spend the 12 seconds looking into it.

Do whatever you want.

Nope. Not how it works, flop.

[Taylor]

8 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Only if I am trying to compensate for your laziness and interested in changing your mind.  I would hope if YOU were interested in the data you might spend the 12 seconds looking into it.

Do whatever you want.

In the time you spent calling us lazy, you could have produced the studies that are apparently so easy to find, and made yourself a sandwich, and eaten the sandwich.

[Dtwncbad]

13 minutes ago, Taylor said:

In the time you spent calling us lazy, you could have produced the studies that are apparently so easy to find, and made yourself a sandwich, and eaten the sandwich.

I made the sandwich and ate it.  Yes I choose to do things like that over do your google searches.  Yes.

[Junkballer]

They should keep the name and just change the logo.  Or change it to the Fighting Patels.

[T.G.]

Who will win?

[Taylor]

There's actually a voting bloc called the Patel Motel Cartel. Apparently 90% of independent hotels are owned by Indian Americans, and 75% of the motel owners have the last name Patel. And they all vote similarly in elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/04/magazine/a-patel-motel-cartel.html