BREAKING: Rob Manfred tells ESPN he is less confident there will be a 2020 season; MLB says unless MLBPA waives any legal claims against the league, there will be no 2020 season

[zenmaster]

Manfred is such a twat. He should really lose his job over this. 

Players: Tell us when and where

MLB: No!

 

[Stradling]

What MLB really needs is a commissioner that looks out for baseball rather than one that looks after the best interest of the owners.  Problem is the owners hire the commissioner and I highly doubt they’ll ever walk this one back.  

[DMVol]

What is needed is one representative from each side, preferably two who have worked together in the past and have a working relationship, give them some authority, stop the rhetoric and get it done.  Negotiating publicly with angry statements rarely gets anything done.  Private conversations between folks who want to make a deal rather than spew rancor can get things done.

[Angels in 2030]

I apologize in advance to Arte if i am wrong, because my next comment has no factual basis behind it whatsoever.  But i feel like Arte is absolutely one of the 8+ owners who currently do not want a season.  It just makes way too much sense considering everything else.

[eligrba]

32 minutes ago, DMVol said:

What is needed is one representative from each side, preferably two who have worked together in the past and have a working relationship, give them some authority, stop the rhetoric and get it done.  Negotiating publicly with angry statements rarely gets anything done.  Private conversations between folks who want to make a deal rather than spew rancor can get things done.

Arbitration?

[eligrba]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

What MLB really needs is a commissioner that looks out for baseball rather than one that looks after the best interest of the owners.  Problem is the owners hire the commissioner and I highly doubt they’ll ever walk this one back.  

I believe this is the employment structure for the vast majority of publicly traded companies.  Replace owners with board of directors and the commissioner with a CEO.  This type of incestuous relationship is not unique to baseball.  This is not a commissioner problem, it is an owner problem.  I agree baseball needs something different than an owner-based commissioner.  It might be time to consider a different business model rather than having a single commissioner.

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, Fourts said:

I apologize in advance to Arte if i am wrong, because my next comment has no factual basis behind it whatsoever.  But i feel like Arte is absolutely one of the 8+ owners who currently do not want a season.  It just makes way too much sense considering everything else.

Maybe but at the same time he has a great TV deal and this year there’s no profit sharing amongst owners. 

[Stradling]

38 minutes ago, Fourts said:

I apologize in advance to Arte if i am wrong, because my next comment has no factual basis behind it whatsoever.  But i feel like Arte is absolutely one of the 8+ owners who currently do not want a season.  It just makes way too much sense considering everything else.

granted this is a little old, look at the teams that generate the smallest amount of revenue on their tv deal but has a decent size payroll.  Those would be the most likely to vote against a season, especially in a season with no revenue sharing. 

[Angel Oracle]

HTH do the Rockies have a pathetic tv package?   Because it’s a football town?

Edited June 16, 2020 by Angel Oracle

[Claude]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

What MLB really needs is a commissioner that looks out for baseball rather than one that looks after the best interest of the owners.  Problem is the owners hire the commissioner and I highly doubt they’ll ever walk this one back.  

The Commissioner is sitting right between a firestorm of greed.  

 

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

What MLB really needs is a commissioner that looks out for baseball rather than one that looks after the best interest of the owners.  Problem is the owners hire the commissioner and I highly doubt they’ll ever walk this one back.  

So if we don’t have a baseball season it’s the Commissioner’s fault? That’s very shortsighted thinking. 

Edited June 16, 2020 by RendZone

[ScottT]

I think the media is more angry about all of this than the fans

[ScottT]

Understandably so

[Chuck]

Victor Rojas...

 

[fan_since79]

Thinking about changing my username to fan_no_more

Seriously. I've had enough of these clowns. Players AND owners.

 

[ScottT]

Not sure Ken Rosenthal's a villain 

[Stradling]

52 minutes ago, RendZone said:

So if we don’t have a baseball season it’s the Commissioner’s fault? 

No

[yk9001]

Manfred - legacy??

[Stradling]

Legacy isn’t some thing a commissioner should be thinking about. Sports writers probably should stay away from the legacy conversation until a player is 10 to 15 years into their Hall of Fame career.

[rafibomb]

 

 

[yk9001]

The 'tell us when and where' line is clean and concise.  Puts all the onus on the owners, and they are fumbling around with the 'humina humina...' corporate-speak.

What's our owner had to say about any of this?

[Claude]

2 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

 

 

Why doesn’t Mike Trout ask the players rep to answer that question. Maybe they should just call the season so the players can all go play baseball in South Korea for less than 5% of their salary. 

[rafibomb]

13 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

 

 

Remember when Manfred said baseball can help make Trout's brand really big if he just speaks out and markets himself more? lol

[Claude]

1 minute ago, rafibomb said:

Remember when Manfred said baseball can help make Trout's brand really big if he just speaks out and markets himself more? lol

A Mike Trump tweet. 

[T.G.]

 

 

[Lhalo]

Season Over