Trumped

[AngelsLakersFan]

23 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Stalin was a leftist. Did study political science, I'm guessing no. Hitler was the very definition of a far right fascist, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy. Him and Mussolini, and wanna be Trump.

Stalin wasn't really ideological so much as he took control of the existing power structure and used it to rule with an iron fist. When you get so far to the extremes it can be hard to see the differences.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Hitler was the democratically elected 'law and order' candidate who vowed to own the libturd communists and expose the deep state Jewish conspiracy.

[wopphil]

1 hour ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

After fighting hard to keep him from getting the nomination, too many within the GOP have sold their souls to this man, and they have endorsed the insanity that has been his presidency. Instead of calling him out when he is clearly wrong, at least publicly they have gone blindly along, even trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Exactly. I could have stuck with the party if they had stood up to him, but other than the occasional Mitt Romney, the party has acquiesced in everything Trump has said and done. Whether they are political whores, or just as evil as Trump, the result is the same. 

[tdawg87]

Spoiler: It doesn't.

[St1ck]

Watched some of his speech last night. I really feel he put in a lot of effort  to help soften the countries division. It didn't sound like insane ranting at all. Bravo Trump. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 7/3/2020 at 7:55 AM, RendZone said:

Sounds like a murder confession...

[Crampknees]

3 hours ago, angelinkc said:

That’s the bs definition the left would like you to believe. News flash hitter was a fucking leftist. 

There have been many good hitters who bat left, you are correct. 

[St1ck]

1 minute ago, Karenknees said:

There have been many good hitters who bat left, you are correct. 

 

[Crampknees]

2 minutes ago, st1ckboy said:

 

For sure a leftist

[tdawg87]

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Sounds like a murder confession...

Would be a lot of fun if it was real.  Lol 

[UndertheHalo]

4 hours ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

Antifa/BLM are modern-day brownshirts. Trump is right to call them fascists.

How many times were you dropped on your head as an infant ?

[UndertheHalo]

5 hours ago, angelinkc said:

That’s the bs definition the left would like you to believe. News flash hitter was a fucking leftist. 

Patently false.   This isn’t something up for interpretation.  You are completely wrong. 

[tdawg87]

27 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

How many times were you dropped on your head as an infant ?

Yes.

[UndertheHalo]

5 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Stalin wasn't really ideological so much as he took control of the existing power structure and used it to rule with an iron fist. When you get so far to the extremes it can be hard to see the differences.

I think this is mostly right.  My very broad and brief understanding is that Stalin and Lenin had significant idealogical clashes over the authority of the central party over the various republics that would make up the USSR.  Lenin I guess you could say was more interested in pursuing global revolution and the collectivization of all workers.  A more “pure” understanding of Marx.  He wanted the republics like Georgia and Ukraine to be ruled with their full consent.  Stalin on the other hand wanted to dominate the entire USSR and was not interested in global revolution.  Very much a more authoritarian brand.  Which of course we know was how he executed his rule.  When Lenin died Stalin got rid of Trotsky and turned the party apparatus into his instruments of enforcement.  The rest is history. 

Edited July 4, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[angelinkc]

49 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Patently false.   This isn’t something up for interpretation.  You are completely wrong. 

If course the leftist historians will say that. Read his books and listen to his words from the start. Nationalism is about the only view he shared with right wing groups. Being to the right of communist doesn’t make you a righty. You can argue the dems of today have made rich white people the Jews. From socialized health care, hatred of the church , and weapons confiscation the modern day left shares a hell of a lot with the nazis

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, angelinkc said:

If course the leftist historians will say that. Read his books and listen to his words from the start. Nationalism is about the only view he shared with right wing groups. Being to the right of communist doesn’t make you a righty. You can argue the dems of today have made rich white people the Jews. From socialized health care, hatred of the church , and weapons confiscation the modern day left shares a hell of a lot with the nazis

I enjoy going back and forth with you dude.  But seriously this is all fucking nonsense.  You don’t get to do revisionism because it’s inconvenient for you.  Hitler and his ideology is well documented and very clearly understood.  The Nazis were far right authoritarian psychopaths.   You don’t like it that he’s on your side of the spectrum.  Sorry.  That doesn’t make the historians leftist liars.  
 

We were talking about Stalin a few posts up.  I’m not denying that he was on the left side of the spectrum. 

Edited July 4, 2020 by UndertheHalo

[UndertheHalo]

See anything here you recognize KC ? Were these people nazis ? 
 

[UndertheHalo]

I guess these old ass pictures from Weimar Germany could be deep state leftist propaganda. 

[tdawg87]

I see the commie flag so yeah that looks about right. 

[Claude]

Dude continues to impress. 

[Rico]

2 hours ago, angelinkc said:

If course the leftist historians will say that. Read his books and listen to his words from the start. Nationalism is about the only view he shared with right wing groups. Being to the right of communist doesn’t make you a righty. You can argue the dems of today have made rich white people the Jews. From socialized health care, hatred of the church , and weapons confiscation the modern day left shares a hell of a lot with the nazis

Nazis practiced a warped version of Christianity.  Hitler described himself as a Christian.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

[Rico]

That crowd shot.

[Adam]

Man the Magas across the street have been lighting off stadium grade fireworks for 30 minutes straight. 

[Adam]