Angels trade Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and PTBNL

[AngelsLakersFan]

4 minutes ago, failos said:

You do realize this move gives the team more spending power, right? 

Moreno can spend what ever he wants. So far he has spent a whole bunch of prospects instead of any money. 

[beatlesrule]

This is a little bit like the Lakers trading away Russell(#2 overall pick) to get rid of Mozgovs contract. Of course, that involved more money but it gave the Lakers much needed cap space. The Lakers also got the 27th pick in the first round and the Angels will be getting something in return too.

[AngelsLakersFan]

9 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

This is a little bit like the Lakers trading away Russell(#2 overall pick) to get rid of Mozgovs contract. Of course, that involved more money but it gave the Lakers much needed cap space. The Lakers also got the 27th pick in the first round and the Angels will be getting something in return too.

The Angels return on this deal will not be significant.

Lost in all the Cole talk, Wilson is the biggest piece Eppler has moved since the Simmons trade... and for what? Enough to cover for Cody Allen...

[popo85]

10 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

This is a little bit like the Lakers trading away Russell(#2 overall pick) to get rid of Mozgovs contract. Of course, that involved more money but it gave the Lakers much needed cap space. The Lakers also got the 27th pick in the first round and the Angels will be getting something in return too.

I was thinking of this trade as well, at the moment 21-3 hopefully same good results for Angels down the line.

[floplag]

Some of you hold onto prospects far too hard.

[Troll Daddy]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

Some of you hold onto prospects far too hard.

Lol Didn’t we just sign him June 10th, 2019 and give him a check for $3.4M dollars? 

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

Some of you hold onto prospects far too hard.

It's more about philosophy... Teams can spend whatever they are willing to spend, but you only get one first round pick every year. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

10 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

It's more about philosophy... Teams can spend whatever they are willing to spend, but you only get one first round pick every year. 

It is kind of weird, to be honest.

@Dochalo doesnt like him, so neither do I. Kidding aside, he didnt sound too promising.

That said, its suprising they spent a few years scouting this guy, picked hin over multiple others, then were willing to drop him that quickly, just to clear payroll.

It doesnt make any sense unless something else comes from it.

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

It is kind of weird, to be honest.

@Dochalo doesnt like him, so neither do I. Kidding aside, he didnt sound too promising.

That said, its suprising they spent a few years scouting this guy, picked hin over multiple others, then were willing to drop him that quickly, just to clear payroll.

It doesnt make any sense unless something else comes from it.

Well yeah, his star has diminished since he was drafted, and he was certainly not one of our more hyped picks, but it hasn't been all that long since his selection in the first round.

[Docwaukee]

happy to eat some crow about Cozart not being movable.  

sad that we completely wasted the 15th overall pick in the draft.  

Arte is all in but couldn't eat 12.7 mil.  and the GM had to dump one of our top 10 prospects in order to get rid of a that shitty signing he made.  

Sorry, but what part of any of this makes the Angels look smart? 

But it means we're getting Cole and Rendon.  okey dokey.  There's a lot of big and fairly unlikely stuff that needs to happen now in order to make me feel like they aren't chasing stupid with dumb.   Maybe this allows us to sign Bumgarner to a 9 figure deal.  BULLY!!

Might as well trade Adams and Marsh for Boyd at this point.  

[tdawg87]

Lol

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

happy to eat some crow about Cozart not being movable.  

sad that we completely wasted the 15th overall pick in the draft.  

Arte is all in but couldn't eat 12.7 mil.  and the GM had to dump one of our top 10 prospects in order to get rid of a that shitty signing he made.  

Sorry, but what part of any of this makes the Angels look smart? 

But it means we're getting Cole and Rendon.  okey dokey.  There's a lot of big and fairly unlikely stuff that needs to happen now in order to make me feel like they aren't chasing stupid with dumb.   Maybe this allows us to sign Bumgarner to a 9 figure deal.  BULLY!!

Might as well trade Adams and Marsh for Boyd at this point.  

[Chuck]

6 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

happy to eat some crow about Cozart not being movable.  

sad that we completely wasted the 15th overall pick in the draft.  

Arte is all in but couldn't eat 12.7 mil.  and the GM had to dump one of our top 10 prospects in order to get rid of a that shitty signing he made.  

Sorry, but what part of any of this makes the Angels look smart? 

But it means we're getting Cole and Rendon.  okey dokey.  There's a lot of big and fairly unlikely stuff that needs to happen now in order to make me feel like they aren't chasing stupid with dumb.   Maybe this allows us to sign Bumgarner to a 9 figure deal.  BULLY!!

Might as well trade Adams and Marsh for Boyd at this point.  

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Lol

and I honestly don't really care much about losing Wilson.  Wasn't too high on him to begin with.  Maybe it's good that Eppler recognized when to cut his losses and at least get something.  

[Chuck]

We have so much SS depth on the active roster and down in the farm. Losing Wilson to free up $$ to improve the team now seems like a prudent move by Eppler. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Maaan.... i thought Doc would be the happiest on this one.

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

and I honestly don't really care much about losing Wilson.  Wasn't too high on him to begin with.  Maybe it's good that Eppler recognized when to cut his losses and at least get something.  

So now you've already changed your mind about the deal?

[Docwaukee]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

So now you've already changed your mind about the deal?

haven't changed my mind at all.  it makes Eppler look pretty confused and not very smart one way or another.  trade Wilson for a pitcher.  fine.  

right now we've given up 5 prospects, one of which was in our top ten and acquired two years of a #5 starter and cleared about 7m in payroll for 2020 and everyone is giving out hand jobs.  

[Docwaukee]

8 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

We have so much SS depth on the active roster and down in the farm. Losing Wilson to free up $$ to improve the team now seems like a prudent move by Eppler. 

free up $$ for who.  Cole and Rendon?  Hell yes!!  All day every day.  Bumgarner and Donaldson?  fuck me.  

[Chuck]

Just now, Dochalo said:

free up $$ for who.  Cole and Rendon?  Hell yes!!  All day every day.  Bumgarner and Donaldson?  fuck me.  

What if it's Rendon, Ryu, Teheran and a trade for Kluber?

[ten ocho recon scout]

7 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

haven't changed my mind at all.  it makes Eppler look pretty confused and not very smart one way or another.  trade Wilson for a pitcher.  fine.  

right now we've given up 5 prospects, one of which was in our top ten and acquired two years of a #5 starter and cleared about 7m in payroll for 2020 and everyone is giving out hand jobs.  

To be fair, its christmas. The handjobs were just because of the season.

[Docwaukee]

6 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

What if it's Rendon, Ryu, Teheran and a trade for Kluber?

not a chance of that happening.  Maybe the first three.  Maybe.  Cut Teheran and Kluber out of that and trade Rengifo for a solid starter with at least 3 years of control, then fine.  

[Lou]

 

4 hours ago, DerekGMZ said:

 

Derek!!!

[Lou]

5 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

LOL @Lou agrees.

he's a dumbass

[Lou]

Just now, Lou said:

he's a dumbass

I agree