Schimpf

[NorCal Halo]

Ohtani's outstanding start overshadowed Ryan Schimpf's excellent start.  Heck, even his teammates forgot to give Schimpf the now traditional silent treatment for his first home run, which also was his first hit as an Angel.  Could Schimpf be the Angel's 3rd baseman of the future?

[CubsFan]

8 minutes ago, NorCal Halo said:

Ohtani's outstanding start overshadowed Ryan Schimpf's excellent start.  Heck, even his teammates forgot to give Schimpf the now traditional silent treatment for his first home run, which also was his first hit as an Angel.  Could Schimpf be the Angel's 3rd baseman of the future?

No.

He's old 29.

Small 5-9

He has HR power, 35 HR in 444 ABs and walks a fair amount (.320 OBP) but has a low career BA (.196)

Seems like a really good util and pinch hit guy.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/schimry01.shtml

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, CubsFan said:

No.

He's old 29.

Small 5-9

He has HR power, 35 HR in 444 ABs and walks a fair amount (.320 OBP) but has a low career BA (.196)

Seems like a really good util and pinch hit guy.

he'll basically be a cheaper version, white version, of Luis Valbuena... on the bench. 

[laagamer]

Hey, if he can produce like this consistently, I don't see how we send him down. 

[GrittyVeterans]

He pretty much confirms my theory that you can find someone to do what Valbuena does for the league minimum

[Second Base]

5 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

He pretty much confirms my theory that you can find someone to do what Valbuena does for the league minimum

Yeah but the bat flips though...

[red321]

I think he can also play the corner OF positions

[Tank]

18 minutes ago, laagamer said:

Hey, if he can produce like this consistently, I don't see how we send him down. 

if he could produce like this consistently, he probably wouldn't have been available . . .

[Erstad Grit]

He's here in case Kinsler is wasted money. 

[TroutField]

That short wall in right field will help him a lot as a lefty power hitter, I expect Eppler to exploit that wall by getting players that play into that strength. 

[totdprods]

29 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

he'll basically be a cheaper version, white version, of Luis Valbuena... on the bench. 

Nailed it. He's an immediate alternative to Valbuena. This allows an option to fill the exact same role if Valbuena sucks, gets hurt, gets a hit from a contending team in need of a bench player, or at the very least, a league minimum option for next year, allowing them to decline his option.

[Warfarin]

38 minutes ago, NorCal Halo said:

Ohtani's outstanding start overshadowed Ryan Schimpf's excellent start.  Heck, even his teammates forgot to give Schimpf the now traditional silent treatment for his first home run, which also was his first hit as an Angel.  Could Schimpf be the Angel's 3rd baseman of the future?

Man, lol.

Sunday morning:  WHY IS SCHIMPF EVEN BEING CALLED UP!?  

Monday morning:  OUR FUTURE 3B!

Not picking on you, but it's just funny seeing how quickly sentiment changes.

Schimpf had a pretty good 2016 season with the Padres (2.6 WAR in half a season), then regressed badly in 2017.  Most likely, he is something inbetween those versions.  A very useful bench piece who can spot start or a second division starter, but probably not a first division starter (i.e., a club like ours).

He'll get sent back down once Kinsler is activated, but I think we'll definitely see more of him this year, and he could possibly be playing a larger role next year, depending on who we re-sign, etc.

[GrittyVeterans]

9 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

He's here in case Kinsler is wasted money. 

In no way was KInsler wasted money. He gives you something the Angels haven't had since Kendrick - a 2B that can play both sides of the ball well.

Way too early to say he'll be fighting injuries the whole season

[Angelsfan1984]

11 minutes ago, TroutField said:

That short wall in right field will help him a lot as a lefty power hitter, I expect Eppler to exploit that wall by getting players that play into that strength. 

So you mean Bryce Harper?

[Erstad Grit]

11 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

In no way was KInsler wasted money. He gives you something the Angels haven't had since Kendrick - a 2B that can play both sides of the ball well.

Way too early to say he'll be fighting injuries the whole season

Do you know what "in case" means? 

Every MLB teams wants a legitimate back-up for every position in case their starter goes down. My guess is LV and Marte were viewed as not good enough for Eppler. 

While I didn't say Kinsler will be fighting injuries all year, One cannot just ignore the reality that he is 35 and sometimes injuries linger. 

[DMVol]

3 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Do you know what "in case" means? 

Every MLB teams wants a legitimate back-up for every position in case their starter goes down. My guess is LV and Marte were viewed as not good enough for Eppler. 

While I didn't say Kinsler will be fighting injuries all year, One cannot just ignore the reality that he is 35 and sometimes injuries linger. 

I think it also had to do with Cowart going down....we needed some infield depth....

[NorCal Halo]

20 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

Man, lol.

Sunday morning:  WHY IS SCHIMPF EVEN BEING CALLED UP!?  

Monday morning:  OUR FUTURE 3B!

Not picking on you, but it's just funny seeing how quickly sentiment changes.

I don't think you are picking on me.  But we can agree to disagree on talent. 

I think Eppler has found a diamond in the rough.  I think San Diego and Atlanta gave up on him too early.  I don't mind a low batting average as long as it brings along with it a high slugging percentage.  The only question I have is the quality of defense at 3rd. 

My point in starting this topic was that there is a lot going on in the club right now;  while many will be watching Ohtani, I will be watching Schimpf.

[Warfarin]

Just now, NorCal Halo said:

I don't think you are picking on me.  But we can agree to disagree on talent. 

I think Eppler has found a diamond in the rough.  I think San Diego and Atlanta gave up on him too early.  I don't mind a low batting average as long as it brings along with it a high slugging percentage.  The only question I have is the quality of defense at 3rd. 

My point in starting this topic was that there is a lot going on in the club right now;  while many will be watching Ohtani, I will be watching Schimpf.

I don't know if we necessarily disagree on his talent.  I did say I think he's a division two starter (i.e. on second tier teams, like the Padres).  I don't think he's a regular starter on a team like ours, but that likewise doesn't mean he can't be useful to us.  A bench player who can capably cover 2B/3B while providing three true outcomes can definitely be of use to us.  I do think someone who K's like he does will probably be exploited by elite pitching (i.e. guys he'd see in the playoffs), but nevertheless, I think he's got more upside to him than some of our other AAA options.

[Angel Oracle]

Isn't Schimpf also a better defensive player than Valbuena?

Height shouldn't affect his utility standing up here.   Short 3B have been at least decent defensively before, like Ron Cey.

[Warfarin]

For anyone who wants to read a bit more on him:

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/ryan-schimpf-is-an-outlier-again/

[Stax]

Schimpf should take Valbuena spot on next years team at league minimum. Eppler mentioned somthing about he is the type of bat the Angels are looking for.  

[Warfarin]

22 minutes ago, Stax said:

Schimpf should take Valbuena spot on next years team at league minimum. Eppler mentioned somthing about he is the type of bat the Angels are looking for.  

Can Schmipf play 1B?  But yeah, his positional versatility is very important.  If he can capably cover 1B/2B/3B, then he'd fit perfectly on this team, and is probably a better option than Cowart, who effectively does the same thing with better defense/worse offense.

Depending on how Kinsler does, I'd be interested in bringing him back on a 1 year deal to man 2B, and use Schimpf in basically the role we have Valbuena in now, with the ability to also cover 2B, too.

[TroutBaseball]

Let's call him "the One True Shimpf" because he's known for the three outcomes.

[laagamer]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

if he could produce like this consistently, he probably wouldn't have been available . . .

We can dream lol

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, laagamer said:

We can dream lol

You never know man.  Teams with great FO's can find diamonds in the rough and make them into something more.  Look at what the Dodgers did with Taylor.  They plundered Dipoto in that trade.