Texas maternal mortality rate doubled

[Rico]

"From 2000 to the end of 2010, Texas’s estimated maternal mortality rate hovered between 17.7 and 18.6 per 100,000 births. But after 2010, that rate had leaped to 33 deaths per 100,000, and in 2014 it was 35.8. Between 2010 and 2014, more than 600 women died for reasons related to their pregnancies.

In 2011, just as the spike began, the Texas state legislature cut $73.6m from the state’s family planning budget of $111.5m. The two-thirds cut forced more than 80 family planning clinics to shut down across the state. "

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-health-clinics-funding

[nate]

Christianity... killing innocent humans for millenniums.

[Glen]

"Women's health."

[the dude abides]

My esteemed Texas legislature will conclude this is god's way of punishing us for allowing gay marriage.

Titans of science and reason they are not.

 

 

[arch stanton]

Even maternal mortality rates are bigger in Texas

[Adam]

They're not drinking enough big red

[Thomas]

Of course the pro-life side will point to to natural side effect of fewer abortions. They certainly have the easier argument. The pro-choice side's argument  is more nuanced and mutil-faceted.  

[mtangelsfan]

Laws rarely make things better and they almost always have unintended consequences.

 

Nate, you are ridiculous.

[Glen]

16 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Laws rarely make things better and they almost always have unintended consequences.

 

Nate, you are ridiculous.

Except that many people were saying what the consequences of these laws would be and they were correct.  If you ignore the warnings the consequences are not unintended. 

[Thomas]

6 minutes ago, Glen said:

Except that many people were saying what the consequences of these laws would be and they were correct.  If you ignore the warnings the consequences are not unintended. 

You do realize the futility of arguing about lives being lost due to restrictive abortion laws to anyone on the pro-life side, right?  You are kind of playing into their hand more than the other way around.

[Glen]

2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

You do realize the futility of arguing about lives being lost due to restrictive abortion laws to anyone on the pro-life side, right?  You are kind of playing into their hand more than the other way around.

It's my head. I'll beat it against the wall if I so choose. 

[Thomas]

Just now, Glen said:

It's my head. I'll beat it against the wall if I so choose. 

It's just a good example of why the pro-life side has made strides against RvW. The opposite side has really lost a single coherent voice and are losing the ideological battles. Say what you will about the crazies stalking and harassing the patients at Planned Parenthood but the have a unified message which is more than the pro-choice side can say right now!

[mtangelsfan]

1 hour ago, Glen said:

Except that many people were saying what the consequences of these laws would be and they were correct.  If you ignore the warnings the consequences are not unintended. 

isn't that usually the case with controversial laws?  

[nate]

This has nothing to do with pro life vs pro choice.  This has to do with Christians being vindictive assholes cutting legitimate funding for clinics that were doing actual good.

[Lou]

On 8/27/2016 at 8:36 PM, nate said:

Christianity... killing innocent humans for millenniums.

unlike abortions 

[Lou]

34 minutes ago, nate said:

This has nothing to do with pro life vs pro choice.  This has to do with Christians being vindictive assholes cutting legitimate funding for clinics that were doing actual good.

I wasn't aware that specific religions were responsible for government funding 

[Glen]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

I wasn't aware that specific religions were responsible for government funding 

Well, I'm sure it wasn't the atheists in government that were responsible for cutting the funding for abortions.

[Spirit]

Glen's right.  Obama and Hillary had nothing to do with this law.

 

 

 

 

 

[Lou]

white Americans cut funding for these organizations 

hey, that was easy 

[nate]

5 hours ago, Lou said:

I wasn't aware that specific religions were responsible for government funding 

And here I thought you were smarter.

[Lou]

On 9/3/2016 at 0:39 PM, nate said:

And here I thought you were smarter.

And here I knew you weren't

 

 

 

 

BOOM!

[Taylor]

Abortion is pretty much the only topic that I still lean conservative on. That being said, I've never met a pro-life person who doesn't support abortion when the mother's life is in danger. These laws are clearly missing the mark if they're causing mothers to die.

[Rico]

So Texas lawmakers have acknowledged there is a problem and have decided to do nothing until 2019.

http://www.kwtx.com/content/news/-Texas-lawmakers-make-few-moves-to-address-pregnancy-deaths-426597541.html

 

[Blarg]

I noticed they didn't put a number to their statistics. I wonder why.

[Schildog]

so it could lead to a bitchy blarg comment. 

abbott can put it on a special session agenda. but you know, screw women.