Kaepernick sits during national anthem, and 49ers defend him

[Adam]

But kids do fight over their boca burgers!

[ABC]

13 minutes ago, Tank said:

mostly we deal with derogatory comments about someone's race. it gets mixed in with bullying. 

you should note that i'm at a fairly small parochial school with 96 students in our jr. high. we don't have gang issues or turf wars, or things like that.

 

I'm curious what are the derogatory comments specifically?

[Rico]

What bothers me is the implication that just because someone is rich and successful, then they should have no right to complain.  That is what I was getting at with the Ted Cruz quote.  The way he just brushes him off.

[mtangelsfan]

It is a tactic most everyone uses unfortunately.  It is much easier to attack a person instead of  an argument

[Tank]

1 hour ago, CF8 said:

I'm curious what are the derogatory comments specifically?

Think back to when you were in jr. high. Probably a lot of the same things.

[Adam]

Yella belly! That was the worst thing you could say when AIR was in school. And Phillistine

[Spirit]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

What bothers me is the implication that just because someone is rich and successful, then they should have no right to complain.  That is what I was getting at with the Ted Cruz quote.  The way he just brushes him off.

 

But they have the right to complain.  What they (or anyone for that matter) don't have is the right complain without feedback from others.

That said, Cruz is a douche'.  But he's getting feedback on his feedback.  It's not like he said what he had to say and everyone just gave him a pass.

 

 

 

[Spirit]

3 hours ago, Adam said:

All races are racist. 

Identify as an individual, not as a part of a collective. Assess others as individuals.

 

Mega dittos. 

 

 

 

[nate]

8 hours ago, Adam said:

Only a Sith deals in absolutes 

This is strong

[Crampknees]

4 hours ago, Adam said:

All races are racist. 

Identify as an individual, not as a part of a collective. Assess others as individuals.

Assess is what I yell when those Mexican kids come on my lawn.  Get your assess off my lawn.  

[ABC]

8 hours ago, Rico said:

What bothers me is the implication that just because someone is rich and successful, then they should have no right to complain.  That is what I was getting at with the Ted Cruz quote.  The way he just brushes him off.

 

I don't think that is what Cruz is saying. Cruz statement reads to me that you shouldn't disrespect the flag to make your point. Cruz's fans are very patriotic so even if he doesn't believe in his tweet it helps his career.

Most people are critical of Kap because of his reason for protesting, not for his actions. Some don't like "disrespecting" the flag regardless of his reasons. Some don't like blacks. Some have shitty lives and think Kap unfairly won the genetic lottery so they are happy to shit on someone who is living a better life. And so on.

All his criticism isn't racism.

 

[Tank]

9 hours ago, CF8 said:

Most people are critical of Kap because of his reason for protesting, not for his actions. Some don't like "disrespecting" the flag regardless of his reasons. Some don't like blacks. Some have shitty lives and think Kap unfairly won the genetic lottery so they are happy to shit on someone who is living a better life. And so on.

All his criticism isn't racism.

i think most people have been critical of his actions, not his reasons. from what i've seen, here and other places, people agree with his right to protest but not by what they see as disrespecting the flag.

[Glen]

Can someone please explain to me how Kaepenick is disrespecting the flag?

[Tank]

would it be better for you if me or others had said 'disrespecting who and what the flag represents'?

[Spirit]

Can someone please explain to me why anyone stands up, removes their hat and puts their hand over their heart for the anthem?

 

 

 

[Rico]

Can someone please explain to me quantum physics?

[Jay]

53 minutes ago, Glen said:

Can someone please explain to me how Kaepenick is disrespecting the flag?

Translation: nothing anyone can say will convince me that Kapernick is disrespecting the flag.

 

[AngelsLongBall]

5 minutes ago, Rico said:

Can someone please explain to me quantum physics?

I got this

[Amazing Larry]

Why is it they call it taking a dump when you're actually leaving a dump. It's not like you're going to take it anywhere.

- Beavis

[Amazing Larry]

15 minutes ago, Geoff said:

Can someone please explain to me why anyone stands up, removes their hat and puts their hand over their heart for the anthem?

It's military law. I assume civilians just follow the military's lead. 

When I was at the Rams game last month some dude came running up to me demanding that I tell the guy in front of me to take his hat off for God Bless America. I just gave him a blank stare and sipped my beer. He eventually yelled at the guy himself. Some people get so worked up over the most unimportant stuff.

[Spirit]

Ok, so outside of the military who are apparently required, why does anyone do it?  Why do they stop beer and food sales at the ballpark?  What's the purpose of any of it?  

 

 

[Amazing Larry]

No clue.

[Jay]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

 

(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—

(1)when the flag is displayed—

(A)

individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B)

members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C)

all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

[Blarg]

So it is a code of conduct but not necessarily a law. 

I have no problem with the establishment of codes for civil behavior but it is not a requirement to follow nor punishable for not complying. 

[Spirit]

Yeah.  The use of the word "should" vs. "must" or "shall" basically means, "Meh ... do whatever you want."

So other than there being a title addressing how to do it in the US Code, is there a "reason?"  Is it to honor the country, the flag, the military, the police, the memory of Anna Nicole Smith ... to stick our thumb in the eye of the British?