Millennials like socialism - until they get jobs

[nate]

And 24.3 million members.  So yeah, without his pay everyone could save $1.25 a year!  Wow what a big difference!!!

 

And actually another 14 million dental members.

 

And Aetna has been widely recognized as the driving force in lowering healthcare costs by driving people to live healthier lifestyles.

 

The government on the other hand has added so many mandates that they have driven the costs to record highs.  But they will make it cheaper!

[arch stanton]

I'm just spitballing here but I bet insurance companies could save a bundle if they went to India to hire all their software people.

[Spirit]

Hey, if you can't trust data from Health Care for America Now, who can you trust?

[Guest]

The Aetna CEO has a salary of 30 million dollars.

 

As if the health insurance industry isn't already wasteful.

I hate this idealistic bullshit

[Make Angels Great Again]

So let's do some math.

Our GDP in 2015 was 16.46 trillion. 17.1% of our GDP was healthcare, which = 2.79 trillion per year, or 27.9 trillion over a decade. Bernie claims he can save 6 trillion over the next decade through various means, which would equal 21.9. Eliminating the private health insurance industry would save 8.84 billion over the next decade, reducing the cost to 13.06 trillion over 10 years.

 

Bernie's revenue from those taxes would be 1.388 trillion per year, which would equal 13.88 trillion over the next 10 years.

 

Did I miss something?

[nate]

According to this: http://healthcareforamericanow.org/ourissues/health-insurance-industry/

 

The private health insurance industry is a $884-billion-a-year industry.

 

Those numbers are very inflated.  It is about $696 billion.  Using 5% profit that is $104 per person in the US.

 

Keep in mind that a lot of those $ are not health insurance companies but IT vendors that provide services.  Services that will still exist under a government run system.

[nate]

Only that our GDP in 2014 was $17.4 trillion and that you are actually taking what a politician is saying as the truth.

[Make Angels Great Again]

http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-inflation-adjusted/table

[Make Angels Great Again]

GDP clearly says there 16.46

 

Is that wrong and nate right?

[Blarg]

The Aetna CEO has a salary of 30 million dollars.

As if the health insurance industry isn't already wasteful.

You should look up what Michael Eisner made as the CEO of the Walt Disney Corporation.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Only that our GDP in 2014 was $17.4 trillion and that you are actually taking what a politician is saying as the truth.

 

 

Bernie Sanders, regardless of what you say, is generally hailed as the most truthful politician out there.

[Blarg]

So let's do some math.

Our GDP in 2015 was 16.46 trillion. 17.1% of our GDP was healthcare, which = 2.79 trillion per year, or 27.9 trillion over a decade. Bernie claims he can save 6 trillion over the next decade through various means, which would equal 21.9. Eliminating the private health insurance industry would save 8.84 billion over the next decade, reducing the cost to 13.06 trillion over 10 years.

Bernie's revenue from those taxes would be 1.388 trillion per year, which would equal 13.88 trillion over the next 10 years.

Did I miss something?

Yes, Bernie is a lying **** that wants to be king so he cooked the books.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp

 

http://www.statista.com/statistics/188105/annual-gdp-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

 

http://knoema.com/nwnfkne/world-gdp-ranking-2015-data-and-charts

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Bernie Sanders, regardless of what you say, is generally hailed as the most truthful politician out there.

 

Which is a subjective statement.  At least he's honest about wanting to **** taxpayers.  

[Make Angels Great Again]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_gross_domestic_product

 

 

Real Gross Domestic Product (real GDP) is a macroeconomic measure of the value of economic output adjusted for price changes (i.e., inflation or deflation).^[1] This adjustment transforms the money-value measure, nominal GDP, into an index for quantity of total output. Although GDP is total output, it is primarily useful because it closely approximates the total spending: the sum of consumer spending, investment made by industry, excess of exports over imports, and government spending. Due to inflation, GDP increases and does not actually reflect the true growth in an economy. That is why the inflation rate must be subtracted from the GDP to get the real growth percentage, called the real GDP.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Which is a subjective statement.  At least he's honest about wanting to **** taxpayers.  

 

Well, we'll disagree there

[Adam]

Holy ****, AFL. Please stop

[nate]

Why are health insurance companies evil for helping people pay for the health care they receive... healthcare that they are getting ass raped on the cost of because of doctors and hospitals making astronomical profits?

[Make Angels Great Again]

Why?

[halobob]

AFL you should probably leave America.  

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Nominal GDP is more commonly reported than real GDP and Nate's number is the nominal GDP.

[Make Angels Great Again]

AFL you should probably leave America.  

 

lol.

 

We don't want yer kind here!! This is America!

[Adam]

The only thing that leads to any progress is incentive. 

[mtangelsfan]

Bernie Sanders, regardless of what you say, is generally hailed as the most truthful politician out there.

 

That there is some hard factual truth.

 

We've gone round and round on this.  Lets say Bernie is as pure as the driven snow.  All of his intentions are great and he only wants what is best for all Americans.  That would be great if he were a dictator.  But Bernie as president would not exist in a vacuum.  He would still have to work through Congress, SCOTUS and all of the bs that DC is.  He would still have to deal with the waste, the difficulty of taking a dollar from Idaho and turn it into more than a penny once it passes through DC and gets back to Idaho.

 

The worst part is we will have to pay first and just "believe" that it will all work out.

[Make Angels Great Again]

That's BS. That whole deal is a whole different issue.

 

The increases would all be part of the plan rolled into one, he's not going to just give all these increases without the health care.