Official Guns Thread

[Jason]

https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries

[Thomas]

41 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Why exclude Mexico?

 

6 minutes ago, Angels N Skins said:

https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries

Guess that answers that.

[Adam]

11 minutes ago, Angels N Skins said:

https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries

Excellent

[nate]

Lol you actually agree with that?

 

gun violence in the US isn't bad compared to some of the third world.  Because the US is so similar to Afghanistan 

[Spirit]

16 hours ago, Adam said:

http://www.thedailyliberator.com/mass-shooting-myth-u-s-homicide-rate-hits-51-year-low-gun-ownership-increased-141/

 

Excellent article 

 

 

[NJHalo]

17 hours ago, nate said:

So gun control is working.  We should do more to further decrease it.  After all

 

Look for Germany to make a big push in the standings

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/europe/germany-mass-shooting/index.html

[Taylor]

17 hours ago, Angels N Skins said:

How many of those are suicides gang or drug related? 

Why does this matter? Because it's drug or gang related, it shouldn't be calculated in the overall gun death statistics?

[Jason]

15 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Why does this matter? Because it's drug or gang related, it shouldn't be calculated in the overall gun death statistics?

No that's fine but that doesn't speak for law abiding gun owners. It seems to skew the whole "gun problem" issue

[Adam]

12 hours ago, nate said:

Lol you actually agree with that?

 

gun violence in the US isn't bad compared to some of the third world.  Because the US is so similar to Afghanistan 

There is a little more to it than that. The US is far different from the countries it is generally compared to in terms of population, demographics, scope, etc... 

[Jason]

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/22/rangel-no-guns-for-americans-but-i-need-police-protection-audio/

Rangel would do well in California too

[Adam]

There's just something fundamentally wrong with the anti-gun crowd. At the end of the day, they will rely on men with guns to threaten force with those guns in order to keep people from having guns. 

[Tank]

19 hours ago, Adam said:

http://www.thedailyliberator.com/mass-shooting-myth-u-s-homicide-rate-hits-51-year-low-gun-ownership-increased-141/

that gun ownership has increased 141% flies in the face of the stats jay posted yesterday (i think).

i wonder if their homicide rates includes gang deaths.

[nate]

57 minutes ago, Adam said:

There's just something fundamentally wrong with the anti-gun crowd. At the end of the day, they will rely on men with guns to threaten force with those guns in order to keep people from having guns. 

Because we would be so effective against them with the guns we have?

I am fine with seriously stripping guns away from cops too.

[nate]

And by the way, the population and demographics excuses are bullshit.  The solution is not to arm them with even more guns.

[Adam]

Again, I'm all for things that will make it more challenging for bad people to get guns. 

[Amazing Larry]

24 minutes ago, nate said:

I am fine with seriously stripping guns away from cops too.

300 million guns in this country and you want to take them away from cops. Ok.

[Thomas]

49 minutes ago, nate said:

And by the way, the population and demographics excuses are bullshit. <missing part> The solution is not to arm them with even more guns.

I assume you have supporting facts and reasoning for the initial statement and didn't intend to leave it to stand on its own, yes?

[nate]

You have some magical way of fixing our population and demographics?

Since I know you don't, we probably should be focusing on not arming them.

It is like blaming being poor on being Mexican and not being lazy.

[Thomas]

Just now, nate said:

You have some magical way of fixing our population and demographics?

Since I know you don't, we probably should be focusing on not arming them.

Deport everyone without greater than 25% blood ties to this country prior to 1492? :-D

[nate]

Texas gun advocate shoots and kills her two daughters in family argument.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-shooting-daughters-article-1.2687929?cid=bitly

[Stradling]

Texas man shoots and kills two daughters

[RallyMo]

17 minutes ago, nate said:

Texas gun advocate shoots and kills her two daughters in family argument.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-mother-killed-cops-fatally-shooting-daughters-article-1.2687929?cid=bitly

Ban all cars!

[Adam]

Ban MARRIAGE!

[Stradling]

Football enthusiast murders estranged wife and a waiter.  

[RallyMo]

So, I think I'm doing this right...

Item is designed to kill/harm people in manner that makes other avenues seem inefficient.

Item is used by a person intent on murdering someone else in a manner that is very effective.

In an effort to achieve prophylaxis, I'm now supposed to suggest that we ban an item not designed to inflict murder but that certainly could be. I think I'll choose a Apple Watch. One could be force-fed to a person and certainly cause death.

Ban Apple Watches!