so how did the angels do in the draft?

[NrM]

Overall grade? I haven't followed it too closely.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Poozy

[Inside Pitch]

Overall grade? I haven't followed it too closely.

 

 

Various sites I've seen have them between a B+ to an A-, but those grades are pretty meaningless.   The feeling is they added some high end talents to the system, it's all meaningless until they actually perform.

[Lou]

We'll let you know in about 5 years

[ABC]

Great thread. What did the Angels focus on in terms of position, experience, level, player type, etc.?

[Sherlock31]

Great thread. What did the Angels focus on in terms of position, experience, level, player type, etc.?

A lot of pitchers, and mostly college players.

[Broad Street]

Think they did decent. Obviously I'm not a scout ao I'll just agree with their assessments of the players.

[Adam]

We'll know in about 6 years

[Adam]

We'll let you know in about 5 years

dammit dude

[Blarg]

Shane felt they should have drafted all the guys that were picked before the Angels pick.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Eric Notti

[Tyler]

Haha. My only beef in this draft was going with Newcomb instead of Zimmer, but I loved the Gatto pick.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Shane

[Scott34]

Haven't seen a recap on AW so here's what we did over at maniac ball:

 

http://maniacball.net/blog/2014/06/13/2014-angels-draft-recap/

[Homebrewer]

Could have been soooo much better if they had just lost a few more meaningless games last year.

[Second Base]

We won't know a lot about the rest of their draft for a while, but their first three picks look outstanding right now.  Newcomb is a big lefty, mid-rotation type, probably begins next year in AA and is ready for the majors in 2016, which is right on time because I believe Weaver and Wilson have their contracts end in 2017.

 

Joey Gatto has the stuff to go in the first round, and according to how much they paid him over slot, the Angels believe that if he re-entered the draft in 2 years after some collegiate coaching, he'd likely go in the first round and cost a lot more money. 

 

Their third round pick Chris Ellis is the wild card here.  He doesn't have the polish you see from most collegiate pitchers, but in terms of arsenal, rarely will you find a college pitcher in the 3rd round that can match his stuff.  Low to mid-90's fastball with movement, good slider and a very good feel for the change up.  He's a little similar to Richards when he was drafted, good frame and pitches to work with but sorely in need of proper instruction.  

 

If everything works out right, they should have three mid-rotation type of arms.  At worst you have an end of the rotation arm, minor leaguer and a bullpen piece.  Happy middle ground is likely a mid-rotation lefty, back of the rotation righty and a bullpen piece.  

 

We can say this for sure though, the Angels organizational pitching depth looks a lot better right now than it did 2 weeks ago. 

[ukyah]

i wouldn't have been upset if they went with zimmer in the first. he looks like a wil myers type of potential. nothing wrong with that potential return, but i definitely like this newcomb kid too.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

We'll let you know in about 5 years

 

I have never understood the concept of rating a draft immediately after it ends, especially in baseball, where the bulk of the players start in the minors and try to work their way up. Most of these guys will never put on a major league uniform, and the ones who do will tell the story of how good any team's draft is.

[Mark68]

Have we signed Newcomb yet?

 

I think the overall grade will depend on this.

[ukyah]

Have we signed Newcomb yet?

 

I think the overall grade will depend on this.

 

 

he'll be signed. he's a college junior who went 15th overall. he's got nowhere else to go.

[wopphil]

he'll be signed. he's a college junior who went 15th overall. he's got nowhere else to go.

Mark Appel says hello.

[Stradling]

There's always an exception to the rule, you're a lawyer you know that better than anyone wopphil.

[bloodbrother]

Angels did great

 

they drafted 3 future aces, an all-star hitter, and 12 toolsy MIFers to fill the farm system.

[Lou]

And 28 mop-up relievers 

[Bruce Nye]

I like from the standpoint of sheer number of pitchers.  Hopefully a few of them will blossom in 6 years......er......5 years.  (Sheesh Adam - Lou knows a faster track.)

[ukyah]

Mark Appel says hello.

 

 

the rest of the space time continuum says hello. he'll sign. appel was expected to be the number #1 overall pick in 2012 and dropped to #8. he held out and then went first overall the next year. not even close to newcomb's situation.

[wopphil]

the rest of the space time continuum says hello. he'll sign. appel was expected to be the number #1 overall pick in 2012 and dropped to #8. he held out and then went first overall the next year. not even close to newcomb's situation.

I generally agree with your original point, and odds are Newcomb signs. But it wouldn't shock me if he didn't. If he is very confident in his ability to replicate his success, he may believe he can increase his draft spot and his signing bonus, while also obtaining his degree, by not signing.

And although I haven't done the research, my guess is there are plenty of other comps besides just Appel. What about Luke Hochevar?

[Taylor]

Hopefully they drafted at least a couple pitchers who know what the strikezone is and where to find it.