Howie Kendrick gets NO RESPECT

[Chuck]

Until the pitching staff and the MOTO bats gets their collective shit together, the game is going to be on the line far more often than one guy can make a real difference. Howie is not the reason for the season.  

 

My take is on Howie and Howie alone. I never said he was the reason the Angels have sucked or missed the playoffs.

 

I still like him and think he's a solid ball player.

[Angels]

Tulowitzki is at -3.09 for his career.

 

Utley is at -2.65 for his career.

 

Jose Bautista is at -1.86 for his career.

[HaloMilliVanilli]

I think Shane summed it up pretty well (at least I think it was Shane).  We have youth at 2b that would like replace Howie's production at a fraction of the cost, while also helping to replenish the farm.  If we could obtain more high upside arms, I say go for it.

[Inside Pitch]

Miguel Cabrera is at -1.56 for his career.

 

Robinson Cano is at -4.64 for his career.

 

David Ortiz is at -2.65 from 2011-2013.

 

Evan Longoria is at -2.96 for his career.

 

Buster Posey is at -1.57 for his career.

 

 

Why would anyone want these guys? They're not "clutch."

 

Those guys are all a bunch of slapdicks.. 

Need to sign more Jose Lindses and Willy Bloomquists

[ettin]

To whom?  

 

To anyone who needs a 2B still: Yankees, Royals, Orioles, Blue Jays, White Sox, possibly the Phillies if they do move Phillips, the Mets if they move Murphy, and the Dodgers if they don't play Guerrero in 2014.

[Brent Maguire]

Anyways, Howie has been a consistently above average player with the Angels. It's crazy to me that people criticize him for the sole reason that he didn't develop into the star player he was supposed to be. A 3 win player at 2nd base is extremely tough to find nowadays. 

 

For the people who don't like him, are you aware that he's been the 6th best 2nd baseman since 2011?

[Angels]

Giancarlo Stanton is at -3.33 for his career.

 

Matt Holliday is at -2.80 for his career.

 

Yuniesky Betancourt is at 0.95 for his career. We need more players like him.

[Inside Pitch]

Anyways, Howie has been a consistently above average player with the Angels. It's crazy to me that people criticize him for the sole reason that he didn't develop into the star player he was supposed to be. A 3 win player at 2nd base is extremely tough to find nowadays. 

 

For the people who don't like him, are you aware that he's been the 6th best 2nd baseman since 2011?

 

You clearly need to watch more games. 

[Angels]

Those guys are all a bunch of slapdicks.. 

Need to sign more Jose Lindses and Willy Bloomquists

 

Angels should look to sign Yuniesky Betancourt. Maybe he can replace Kendrick? Betancourt has been "clutch" more often than not. 

[Brent Maguire]

You clearly need to watch more games. 

Apparently so. 

 

I think it's funny how the stats apply to everyone else but with Howie, it's about what you see in the game, not the stats. 

[Marsaka]

Tulowitzki is at -3.09 for his career.

 

Utley is at -2.65 for his career.

 

Jose Bautista is at -1.86 for his career.

 

all the guys u named are high profile hitters, usually hitting in the 3, 4, and 5 spots in the lineup and every opposing team has a plan to specifically get them out.  do you have any players similar to howie kendrick...you know like the fly on the wall type of player that no one in baseball gives any attention, yet they still suck in clutch situations.

[Inside Pitch]

all the guys u named are high profile hitters, usually hitting in the 3, 4, and 5 spots in the lineup and every opposing team has a plan to specifically get them out.  .

 

Strategery! 

[Angels]

all the guys u named are high profile hitters, usually hitting in the 3, 4, and 5 spots in the lineup and every opposing team has a plan to specifically get them out.  do you have any players similar to howie kendrick...you know like the fly on the wall type of player that no one in baseball gives any attention, yet they still suck in clutch situations.

 

Surely you can't be serious, right?

[Marsaka]

Strategery! 

 

comparing guys who command 20m a year, have all star appearances, mvp's etc to kendrick makes no sense.  show me players similar to him.

[ettin]

Apparently so. 

 

I think it's funny how the stats apply to everyone else but with Howie, it's about what you see in the game, not the stats. 

 

True but the stats also support the fact that he is a valuable player at a premium position too. That is why I sincerely feel he has good trade value and would net a good return if he were to be traded. Again I am perfectly fine with Kendrick staying. I just want to make sure we do everything we can to improve the team for next season and beyond. If that means trading Kendrick now then so be it. If he stays great!

[tdawg87]

I would prefer to keep Howie and Aybar at this point, but to be honest if they were both traded the Angels would have a pretty nice load of young pitchers to work with. I could see them bringing in 1 or 2 each.

But again the idea is to win now.

[Inside Pitch]

Surely you can't be serious, right?

 

You better back the **** up..   That dude actually "watches" the games.

[mancini79]

Clutch stats are a complete joke. The criteria is arbitrary and tries to value runs differently. But a run is worth 1 point regardless of when it is scored. Bottom line is that you want your best player in any clutch situation. I will take Kendrick over Aybar in any situation (Aybar has a career "clutch" War of 0.05).

[Inside Pitch]

I would prefer to keep Howie and Aybar at this point, but to be honest if they were both traded the Angels would have a pretty nice load of young pitchers to work with. I could see them bringing in 1 or 2 each.

But again the idea is to win now.

 

Well hell yeah.  If they are punting and saying, 2015 is our year -- do it, and don't look back.

[Jim]

But maybe the funniest part of all.  Bill Buckner, the goat of the 86 WS is in the top 30.  

 

ha, that is amusing. 

[Marsaka]

You better back the **** up..   That dude actually "watches" the games.

 

why do u try so hard to be funny? 

[Inside Pitch]

comparing guys who command 20m a year, have all star appearances, mvp's etc to kendrick makes no sense.  show me players similar to him.

 

 

LOL...  So if a guy makes 20 mil a year -- but his clutch stats suck, it's okay..  Because they are making 20 mil a year and it doesn't matter if they can't come through in the clutch?

 

How short is the bus you take to the ballpark?

Edited December 13, 2013 by Inside Pitch

[Inside Pitch]

why do u try so hard to be funny? 

 

 

I'd ask you why you try so hard to be stupid, but I think it just comes naturally,.

[Scott34]

I really like Kendrick.  It's clear he is an extremely valuable player (Yep, I watch the games..) with a pretty friendly contract. 

 

However, I'd still be open to dealing him.  Mark Ellis could be brought in, and some combo of Ellis/Green/Lindsey would definitely hold the fort until Lindsey is ready full time in '15.

[Marsaka]

LOL...  So if a guy makes 20 mil a year -- but his clutch stats suck, it's okay..  Because they are making 20 mil a year and it doesn't matter if they can't come through int he clutch?

How short is the bus you take to the ballpark?

 

Huh?  I'm not the one who used stats to suggest howie is not clutch.  I clearly said based on watching games.  You might wanna watch a few before talking.

 

Stop making things up in your head and claiming I said them.