Howie Kendrick for Michael Pineda & Vidal Nuno

[Chuck]

Pineda is said to be 100% and ready for spring camp (he pitched down the stretch in AAA) and Vidal Nuno (southpaw) is an intriguing guy that is major league ready.

[Count Orlok]

The Pineda trade really turned out to be a bust for both sides.

[Scott34]

It still stuns me that we brought in a 3-time DUIer considering Adenhart.  Pineda would only add to that mess. Pass.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Scott34

[Docwaukee]

I totally forgot about Pineda.  Tough to count on that guy for a full season.  I don't see the Yanks doing that.  It could be really selling low on their part.  He would be a nice fit though with his fly ball rate. 

[Chuck]

I totally forgot about Pineda.  Tough to count on that guy for a full season.  I don't see the Yanks doing that.  It could be really selling low on their part.  He would be a nice fit though with his fly ball rate. 

 

All reports are that his arm is 100% and was hitting 95-97 MPH with his fastball at AAA toward the end of the season.

 

Hey Doc, I'm running out of ideas, but I'm trying

[Docwaukee]

All reports are that his arm is 100% and was hitting 95-97 MPH with his fastball at AAA toward the end of the season.

 

Hey Doc, I'm running out of ideas, but I'm trying

I'm with you Chuck.  I just think that teams are holding onto pitching like sweet death.  I like JD's hold pattern right now.  I would like to get at least one SP taken care of by the end of the meetings, but I think the that someone is gonna get a little more desperate for offense by the end of the offseason and we could have a nice opportunity.  If not, there will be a couple of guys left who overplayed their hand in FAcy.  I really think Ubaldo is going to be this years Kyle Lohse. 

[tennischmp]

I'm sure the same thing was said about Madson. Pass

[NrM]

Well I'd much prefer Nova as most of you already know, but the Yankees don't have a lot of pitching depth now.

[Chuck]

I'd be fine with a Green/Lindsey platoon at 2B in Howie's absence if it meant we got some pitching in return.

[ELEVEN]

It still stuns me that we brought in a 3-time DUIer considering Adenhart. Pineda would only add to that mess. Pass.

Yep, aquiring Freese bothers me much more than getting one of the PED users Arte seems to be avoiding like a plague.

[Docwaukee]

Well I'd much prefer Nova as most of you already know, but the Yankees don't have a lot of pitching depth now.

I could see the Yanks getting Tanaka and maybe one more starter.  With Pineda, that could make Nova expendable.  I'd do Nova for Kendrick. 

[mancini79]

Not comfortable trading a sure thing in Howie for a questionable Pineda. I would throw someone else their way instead. But the Yankees have a questionable rotation as it stands and could be relying on Pineda to bounce back. I just don't see the Yanks trading SP.

[Brent Maguire]

That's a reasonable proposal Chuck.

It would be hard to trust Pineda for over 150 innings but getting Nuno would help the system, which obviously needs to be done.

I would like Nova preferably over Pineda though.

[ukyah]

i'll take pineda over any yankee starter.

[Scott34]

Yep, aquiring Freese bothers me much more than getting one of the PED users Arte seems to be avoiding like a plague.

Especially this team. Just totally disrespectful, in my opinion. I guess they really don't care what players do off the field.

[mtangelsfan]

I still don't like the idea of getting damaged goods.  It's just too risky.  We need as much of a sure thing as we can get.

[NrM]

I still don't like the idea of getting damaged goods.  It's just too risky.  We need as much of a sure thing as we can get.

 

Well having depth with injury risks is better than having no depth with sure things.

 

Having Pineda as a 5th starter wouldn't be a bad thing, but if we traded for him right now, we'd be counting on him as a 3rd starter.

[Docwaukee]

Well having depth with injury risks is better than having no depth with sure things.

 

Having Pineda as a 5th starter wouldn't be a bad thing, but if we traded for him right now, we'd be counting on him as a 3rd starter.

I'd be more ok although not totally thrilled with that approach if we didn't have to give up an everyday starter from the offense to make it happen.   A couple of 1yr incentive based deals instead. 

 

We need at least one more legit starter though. 

[mtangelsfan]

Well having depth with injury risks is better than having no depth with sure things.

 

Having Pineda as a 5th starter wouldn't be a bad thing, but if we traded for him right now, we'd be counting on him as a 3rd starter.

 

That is kind of my point though.  If things were different for the team, sure it could be worth the gamble.  But the Angels are not in the position to take such gambles IMO.  

[Hollyw00d]

It wouldn't be bad to take a chance on Pineda, but to trade an everyday solid player like Howie for him? no way

[Mark68]

i'll take pineda over any yankee starter.

Really? Over Kuroda?

[YouthofToday]

Pineda is said to be 100% and ready for spring camp (he pitched down the stretch in AAA) and Vidal Nuno (southpaw) is an intriguing guy that is major league ready.

Yes please.

[ukyah]

Really? Over Kuroda?

 

 

kuroda is a really good pitcher, but any year could be his last. i think pineda would be a good gamble.

[AngelStew43]

Saw enough of Green in the last month of the season to know he isn't the answer at 2B.  Lindsey, ok.

[Jay]

It still stuns me that we brought in a 3-time DUIer considering Adenhart.  Pineda would only add to that mess. Pass.

The Adenhart thing was a tragedy but you have to move on.