Kinsler or Andrus Might be Traded

[YouthofToday]

Plenty of caveats in the article. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/06/th-rangers-could-shop-ian-kinsler-or-elvis-andrus/

[nando714]

Wont make since either if they want to swap profar for shelby Miller

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

It's not much of an article. 

 

Kinsler is in decline and he's still owed a lot of money. No thanks. Andrus has been somewhat of a disappointment, and the Rangers signed him to a big money contract. 

Edited November 6, 2013 by AngelsAndRamsFan

[Chuck]

Whatever, Profar is overrated. Let them deal "proven" success so they can cripple their major league roster going forward.

 

I like it.

 

Oh yeah, Kinsler/Andrus are not that great either. 

 

**** the Rangers. 

[Angel Oracle]

Andrus' contract (8/$120 million) makes Aybar's (4/$36 million) look like an absolute steal, both in duration and amount.    Aybar's and Andrus' WARs, save for 2013, have been similar back to 2010.   Andrus isn't necessarily getting any better as he's reached his mid 20s.

 

Same with Kinsler (5/$75 million) vs. Kendrick (4/$33 million), as Kinsler has slumped the past 2 seasons (.750 OPS). 

Edited November 6, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[WallyWorld]

yeah man, that team that has finished ahead of us the past 4 years sure is stupid.

[Angel Oracle]

Their farm system has made all the difference.    Well, that and signing Beltre and Darvish.

 

I am noticing that, although not by a huge amount, they are declining since 2011.

These next few years will be very interesting.   They may have already seen their window close, as they have issues offensively now and a pitching staff that has some regular fluctuation to it.  Health has not been a good friend of the rotation, that's for dang sure.

Edited November 6, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[WallyWorld]

Their farm system has made all the difference.  

 

farm system, FA signings, trades, and the overall intelligent way they've run their organization - yeah, just those little things that have made the difference.

[Lhalo]

Damn. Kinsler's contract is ludicrous.

[EDinTUSTIN]

Whatever, Profar is overrated. Let them deal "proven" success so they can cripple their major league roster going forward.

 

I like it.

 

Oh yeah, Kinsler/Andrus are not that great either. 

 

**** the Rangers. 

This!

[RallyMo]

If they trade Kinsler and do nothing to offset it such as inviting Rick Perry to speak that same day at TBIA, they risk destabilizing the region via the creation of the world's most powerful douche vacuum.

[ettin]

Andrus' contract (8/$120 million) makes Aybar's (4/$36 million) look like an absolute steal, both in duration and amount.    Aybar's and Andrus' WARs, save for 2013, have been similar back to 2010.   Andrus isn't necessarily getting any better as he's reached his mid 20s.

 

Same with Kinsler (5/$75 million) vs. Kendrick (4/$33 million), as Kinsler has slumped the past 2 seasons (.750 OPS). 

 

*High Fives AO*

[VariousCrap]

Those are going to be tough contracts to move unless they fork over $$$.

[sneaky_flute]

Whatever, Profar is overrated. Let them deal "proven" success so they can cripple their major league roster going forward.

 

I like it.

 

Oh yeah, Kinsler/Andrus are not that great either. 

 

**** the Rangers. 

Yeah, man. That 2b with a considerable injury history who still manages to average 5 war over an entire season is just terrible. And that shortstop who's putting up 4 war seasons before the age of 25 sucks. Oh, and that 20-year-old learning the ropes in MLB is overrated because he didn't become the AL MVP.

[tdawg87]

Yeah, man. That 2b with a considerable injury history who still manages to average 5 war over an entire season is just terrible. And that shortstop who's putting up 4 war seasons before the age of 25 sucks. Oh, and that 20-year-old learning the ropes in MLB is overrated because he didn't become the AL MVP.

 

MUST DEFEND MY TEAM ON ANOTHER TEAM'S FORUM

[sneaky_flute]

Their farm system has made all the difference.    Well, that and signing Beltre and Darvish.

 

I am noticing that, although not by a huge amount, they are declining since 2011.

These next few years will be very interesting.   They may have already seen their window close, as they have issues offensively now and a pitching staff that has some regular fluctuation to it.  Health has not been a good friend of the rotation, that's for dang sure.

Their window isn't closing soon. Whether or not they're wasting it by having a distinct managerial disadvantage is another question.

[Brent Maguire]

I really hope they don't get Miller from STL like people have been speculating.

[ettin]

Yeah, man. That 2b with a considerable injury history who still manages to average 5 war over an entire season is just terrible. And that shortstop who's putting up 4 war seasons before the age of 25 sucks. Oh, and that 20-year-old learning the ropes in MLB is overrated because he didn't become the AL MVP.

 

Well the considerable injury history part doesn't really strike confidence into an acquiring teams heart. A lot of the projection systems have Kinsler at about 3.5 WAR next season and he is on the wrong side of 30 so frankly you have to suck it up and say that his best days are behind him. His contract is about equal value right now so I don't think you'll get much back for him if an opposing team has to eat his whole salary.

 

Andrus on the other hand I think is valuable from a defensive standpoint. Profar just needs time to develop as not all prospects enter the big leagues and stomp the competition into the ground like Trout did, which you alluded too.

 

You do need to get off the Kinsler bandwagon, it is about to crash.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

It's not much of an article. 

 

Kinsler is in decline and he's still owed a lot of money. No thanks. Andrus has been somewhat of a disappointment, and the Rangers signed him to a big money contract. 

 

With all the love for Kinsler on this board, I'm trying to imagine the implosion if he were one of our offseason acquisitions.

[JAHV76]

My hunch is th Rangers trade for Kinsler comes up short. A trade to the Dbacs would be o good headline. Dbacs acquire a Dbag.

[ten ocho recon scout]

If they trade Kinsler and do nothing to offset it such as inviting Rick Perry to speak that same day at TBIA, they risk destabilizing the region via the creation of the world's most powerful douche vacuum.

plus 1.

[Hoops McCann]

I dont see any team taking on the Kinsler contract unless Ranger's pay part of it.  I would also assume that the Ranger's really just want to trade Kinsler and not Andrus as they can slot Profar in for Kinsler.  They may only be willing to part with Andrus if they cant readily move Kinsler, which is what I'm assuming.

 

But, the Adrus' contract isnt very friendly either, but likely would be more potential suitors than for Kinsler.

[mtangelsfan]

yeah man, that team that has finished ahead of us the past 4 years sure is stupid.

 

Couple of things.  First, why does it bother you that we don't like our rivals?  Second, who said the Rangers were stupid in the four posts above yours?  

 

We get it man, the Angels haven't been good lately and you are pissed about it.

[YouthofToday]

Kinsler would make far more if he were a free agent this offseason. If one thinks the Rangers would have to eat part of it they are going to be shocked how much Cano and others get this offseason.

[YouthofToday]

Don't forget the Rangers have perhaps the worst tactical manager in MLB.