WTF is with this bleeping weather?

[Tank]

1700 acres already?!? wow.

 

buddy of mine works for l.a. county fire. said these conditions bring out the worst in the arsonists.

[fan_since79]

1700 acres already?!? wow.

 

buddy of mine works for l.a. county fire. said these conditions bring out the worst in the arsonists.

 

It started at 6 AM with four acres. Four hours ago.

Edited January 16, 2014 by fan_since79

[St1ck]

This would have never had happened if DirecTV still had The Weather Channel. 

[fan_since79]

Thank goodness the winds are low. Almost non-existent.

[Angel Dog and Beer]

86 here yesterday. I had to turn the AC on in my truck.  The past few evenings have been spectacular.

 

I hate having to water my plants in the winter though.

[Angel Oracle]

Three men have been arrested by Glendora PD in connection with the fire.

 

More than 1,700 acres burned. Evacuations underway.

Give them a Shawshank Boggs for enjoyment.

[Angel Oracle]

10-day forecast for the Los Angeles area: Temperatures 10 to 20 degrees above normal and low humidity.

Forecast high for today is 87 degrees, windy, with humidities ranging from 4 to 10 percent. Extreme fire danger.

 

There's already a wildfire going in the hills above Glendora.

 

Getting a bit ridiculous here.

Is this January, or mid/late October????

What is causing this crazy early autumn weather so often this winter?   Winter temps by the time end of January hits will be close to TEN degrees ABOVE normal for the entire winter so far! 

[Angel Oracle]

Andddd, the Farmers Almanac swings and misses on the southwest for this winter, just a weeee bit warmer than they expected.

http://www.farmersalmanac.com/weather/2013/08/25/2014-us-winter-forecast/

[Stradling]

Yea, I don't trust the Farmers Almanac, damn witchcraft if you ask me.

[fan_since79]

AccuWeather has a long-range projection to March 1st, with zero rain in their forecast.

 

I'm wondering if 2014 will break the record of 2013 for the driest year.

[1nutkruk]

Are the winds Santa Ana?  Definitely unusual time for that type of wind.

 

Mild here in the Mile High city.

[Glen]

So yeah, how about that climate change?

[HaloFan85]

There was a report by some scientists that came out I believe back in early November that stated the conclusion of a study they did on the deforestation of the Amazon rain forest.  It basically said that deforestation will begin to cause warmer and drier weather in the western United States posing higher risks for severe drought.  They said California would be hit the hardest and warned of not only water shortages but food shortages as well, due to the severe impact it will have on the agriculture here.

[katie]

80 degrees at the beach. Why am I sitting in an office?

[Tank]

There was a report by some scientists that came out I believe back in early November that stated the conclusion of a study they did on the deforestation of the Amazon rain forest.  It basically said that deforestation will begin to cause warmer and drier weather in the western United States posing higher risks for severe drought.  They said California would be hit the hardest and warned of not only water shortages but food shortages as well, due to the severe impact it will have on the agriculture here.

 

the weather guy on channel 7 was talking about the water temps of the pacific and that they were part of the cause of this beastly weather and water shortage we're in. i missed a few bits and pieces of what he said, so someone may need to check my facts on this.

[Angel Oracle]

But the deforestation didn't prevent the El Nino based heavy rains in 2005 and 2010.

I also thought we weren't in the midst of a LaNina right now, which cools the waters and lessens the rain.

 

Something crazy is happening, because SoCal now only gets either piddling rain for a year, or 25-30 inches of rain in a year, never in between anymore like in past years through the early 2000s.

 

And then this outfit predicts an El Nino return sometime in 2014.

http://www.lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Early-signs-point-to-El-Nino-return-in-2014

 

 

All I know is, I'd rather have 8-9 months of golf weather and 3-4 months of some rain, then 12 months of golf weather and no rain and the crashing California economy likely accompanying it.   This ain't the Sahara Desert.

Edited January 16, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[HaloFan85]

It was really the timing of the report that got my attention, right before all the warm and dry weather.  It came out in early November and stated that dry conditions would replace the El Nino conditions we normally get between December and February.

 

"The Rossby waves would move the dry end of the Amazon pattern directly over the western United States from December to February, while the pattern's rainy portion would be over the Pacific Ocean south of Mexico."

 

Now this was a study of what it would be like if the Amazon were stripped completely, but my thought was that this might be the very beginning of what they're describing.  It was only a month or so later we started seeing the conditions they described, just as they predicted to be between the months of Dec and Feb, and it's really been like this the last 2-3 years - warm and dry winters, hot and humid summers.

 

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S38/31/66M12/

[Angel Oracle]

Are the winds Santa Ana?  Definitely unusual time for that type of wind.

 

Mild here in the Mile High city.

They usually can hit SoCal between mid-October and January.  

[Lhalo]

This thread cracks me up. You'd think Armageddon was occurring. Just have a cocktail and enjoy the warm weather.

[Stradling]

AO are you really, truly concerned that something is happening with the global weather or are you just playing us?

[Angel Oracle]

Just consider it some of all of the above,

although I am one to not tolerate monotony well.

Droughts can damage economies though, through messing up the state's agriculture and driving up prices, not to mention doing a number on your skin.

Armageddon it isn't, but it isn't good either.

As mentioned, I am a fan of the changing seasons, as long as they aren't extreme, like this drought.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[Lhalo]

Here are the idiots who let an illegal campfire get out of control during red flag conditions. I'm guessing either meth or mushrooms were involved. What do you think? Place ya bets, place ya bets.

 

[nate]

Validation?

 

 

The Associated Press verified

Calif. governor declares drought emergency, precipitation in most of the state is less than 20 percent of normal:

 apne.ws/1jbkIrS

 

Edited January 17, 2014 by nate

[Angel Oracle]

Last season (July 2012-June 2013) in SoCal saw about 4 inches of rain, this one (July 2013-current) has seen 1 inch so far.

FIVE inches total, where normal would be around TWENTY inches.

If that ain't a drought, nothing is.

 

This has to be the worst 2 year drought in history (since keeping records) for SoCal.

There is the 100 years flood.

THIS is the 100 years drought.

 

Again, SoCal never gets ANYTHING resembling normal rainfall (14 inches) anymore.  

It's either 25-30 inches for a season, or 1-7 inches. 

[fan_since79]

You're right, AO.

 

Only 12 times in the last 100 years has L.A. gotten between 13-15 inches of rain in a single year.

 

Wide variations from the average are common.

 

http://www.laalmanac.com/weather/we13.htm