The Official Los Angeles Angels 2023-2024 Hot Stove Offseason Thread

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Christian Yelich would look nice in the outfield and leading off, IMO.

But are you willing to take him for 5 years $125 million? 

[totdprods]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

But are you willing to take him for 5 years $125 million? 

Upton was 5/$106m, Hamilton was 5/$125m, so I don’t feel it’s completely unprecedented. Yelich’s profile probably lacks the upside but the floor feels much higher. Huge risk and a lot of money but good defense and speed plus 80 walks at the top of the lineup sure fits nicely. 

Maybe if the Halos were able to dump Anderson and maybe Fletcher this winter somewhere to free up some cash.

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Upton was 5/$106m, Hamilton was 5/$125m, so I don’t feel it’s completely unprecedented. Yelich’s profile probably lacks the upside but the floor feels much higher. Huge risk and a lot of money but good defense and speed plus 80 walks at the top of the lineup sure fits nicely. 

Maybe if the Halos were able to dump Anderson and maybe Fletcher this winter somewhere to free up some cash.

Hell you might be able to trade them in the package to get Yelich.  

[totdprods]

19 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Hell you might be able to trade them in the package to get Yelich.  

Don’t think that’s impossible. They’re hungry enough for some vet pitching I could see them taking Anderson. Or maybe the trade comes close to starting/ending with someone like Sandoval. Don’t love that. 

It also immediately frees up some combo of Adell, Moniak, and Ward for an additional trade, or as part of that trade. Plus Yelich can play CF when Trout gets hurt

The Upton trade and extension obviously didn’t work out, but it was seen as a pretty strong move at the time. Their offensive profiles were different but the output similar. Upton’s defense did not compare. No one I think really expected Upton to be dealt when he was, but the Angels dropped in and made it happen without giving up really anything, as Detroit just wanted to free up that money as they rebuilt. That scenario feels extremely similar to what’s happening in Milwaukee. Yelich has a NTC, but would likely be pretty open to playing back home.

Edited November 10, 2023 by totdprods

[BTH]

I’d be down with Yelich if MIL would take back Anderson.

But otherwise, I don’t want to use $26M on an outfielder. Rather use that for SP.

[Second Base]

My guess is the Angels will sign Jeimer Candelaria, JD Martinez, Kenta Maeda and Jack Flaherty.

[Angels 1961]

35 minutes ago, Second Base said:

My guess is the Angels will sign Jeimer Candelaria, JD Martinez, Kenta Maeda and Jack Flaherty.

Need to save DH spot for Rendon and Trout so no on JD

[Vlad27Trout27]

The focus for this offseason is pitching, we needs at the vary minimal get a a solid #2 and a #3 for the upcoming season. Ideally if we can some how get two #2 that would be a winning offseason. If I were to outline our needs, if would be as followed;

1. Starting pitching

2. Bullpen

3. DH/OF

Top choice would be:

Tier 1, Solid #2

I can see us getting Snell, Stroman, re-signing Moore and Lopez, and lastly either Pham and Martinez. 

[BTH]

6 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

I can see us getting Snell, Stroman, re-signing Moore and Lopez, and lastly either Pham and Martinez. 

I can’t. That’s a ton of $$$

Snell: $30M

Stroman: $20M

Moore: $8M

López: $8M

Pham: $10M or Martinez $20M

[Vlad27Trout27]

12 minutes ago, BTH said:

I can’t. That’s a ton of $$$

Snell: $30M

Stroman: $20M

Moore: $8M

López: $8M

Pham: $10M or Martinez $20M

Well than it's not going to be a pretty off-season. 

Personally I have:

Snell 150mil over 6 years= 25 mil

Stroman 72 mil over 4 years= 18 mil

Moore= 8 Mil

Lopez: 33mil over 3 years

 

 

[AngelStew43]

Well than it's not going to be a pretty off-season. 

Personally I have:

Snell 150mil over 6 years= 25 mil

Stroman 72 mil over 4 years= 18 mil

Moore= 8 Mil

Lopez: 33mil over 3 years

 

Snell will get something more, like 180 over 6 years.  So, pass on Stroman.  His second half swoons are something we don't need.  Besides, our guys, Detmers, Sandoval, etc. are already as good as Stroman.  

Moore and Lopez I'm ok with.  We can give part of the Stroman money to Justin Turner, and add some leadership to our clubhouse. 

[Second Base]

11 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Need to save DH spot for Rendon and Trout so no on JD

[FromJapan]

On 11/8/2023 at 5:59 AM, greginpsca said:

Only one from that list i would want is Imanaga. But i think he will be an overpay for some team.

 On November 11 (Japan Standard Time), the Yokohama DeNA BayStars (NPB) announced that they have approved Imanaga's transfer to MLB through the posting system.

(NPB official page) His stats

 

[FromJapan]

6 hours ago, Second Base said:

Sorry for going off topic...

(Wikipedia) Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger

Japanese children's TV program from about 30 years ago 

 

[FromJapan]

Yuki Matsui (Closer, Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles, Age 28) held a press conference on the November 8th (JST) and officially announced that he had exercised his overseas free agency rights.

(Stats in NPB) https://npb.jp/bis/eng/players/81285139.html
(YUKI MATSUI - MLBTR) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/players/yuki-matsui

[Stradling]

someone spelled Nevin wrong. 

[Angel Oracle]

10 hours ago, FromJapan said:

Yuki Matsui (Closer, Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles, Age 28) held a press conference on the November 8th (JST) and officially announced that he had exercised his overseas free agency rights.

(Stats in NPB) https://npb.jp/bis/eng/players/81285139.html
(YUKI MATSUI - MLBTR) https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/players/yuki-matsui

Could definitely use a solid closer!

Crazy good stats the past 3 years, still only 28

Edited November 12, 2023 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

Why?

The guy TOTALLY sucked in 2023 at the plate, to where none of his stats were any good.  He’s already 30 too.

I’d just assume let Paris take over 2B in 2025 after Drury leaves.

Edited November 12, 2023 by Angel Oracle

[Angels 1961]

18 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Why?

The guy TOTALLY sucked in 2023 at the plate, to where none of his stats were any good.  He’s already 30 too.

I’d just assume let Paris take over 2B in 2025 after Drury leaves.

I'd sign Anderson trade Drury get some young pitching prospect. Let the rebuild start. 

[Stradling]

34 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I'd sign Anderson trade Drury get some young pitching prospect. Let the rebuild start. 

Then why do that?  Just trade Drury and start Paris. 

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

I'd sign Anderson trade Drury get some young pitching prospect. Let the rebuild start. 

and once again you remind me that i'm glad you're not a gm.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Why?

The guy TOTALLY sucked in 2023 at the plate, to where none of his stats were any good.  He’s already 30 too.

I’d just assume let Paris take over 2B in 2025 after Drury leaves.

this team doesn't need tim anderson. i hope this is bogus.

[Tank]

On 11/10/2023 at 10:00 PM, Second Base said:

My guess is the Angels will sign Jeimer Candelaria, JD Martinez, Kenta Maeda and Jack Flaherty.

add trevor bauer to that list and it'll be one heckofa winter.

[Angels 1961]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Then why do that?  Just trade Drury and start Paris. 

Again Anderson turns it around you trade him at deadline get another young prospect. Remember you are in rebuild mode. Spending around 10 mill you could get 2 decent prospects. People after 8 LOSING SEASON halos no way going to compete this year for a playoff spot. 

[Angels 1961]

28 minutes ago, Tank said:

and once again you remind me that i'm glad you're not a gm.

Under new manager Anderson turns it around and you trade him at deadline.