Angels Managerial Search Thread

[Taylor]

22 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Latest development:

Bob Melvin

Buck Showalter

Gabe Kapler

Suzanne Somers

Darrin Erstad

What about Patrick Duffy?

[Dtwncbad]

16 minutes ago, BTH said:

Where did you see Melvin or Kapler linked to the Angels?

One of them is still employed by another team…

Sorry I meant Gabe Kaplan.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

3 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Sorry I meant Gabe Kaplan.

Then we would have to change the name of the team to the Sweathogs.

[mmc]

I’ll do it 

[ArkyAngelsFan]

Well if we're gonna change our name to The Sweathogs it would only be fitting to play this song before every game (or if Rendon happens to be in the lineup somehow)

Welcome back, your dreams were your ticket out
Welcome back, to that same old place that you laughed about
Well the names have all changed since you hung around
But those dreams have remained and they've turned around
Who'd have thought they'd lead ya
(Who'd have thought they'd lead ya)
Back here where we need ya
(Back here where we need ya)
Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back

We always could spot a friend, welcome back
And I smile when I think how you must have been
And I know what a scene you were learning in
Was there something that made you come back again
And what could ever lead ya
(What could ever lead ya)
Back here where we need ya
(Back here where we need ya)
Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back

And I know what a scene you were learning in
Was there something that made you come back again
And what could ever lead ya
(What could ever lead ya)
Back here where we need ya
(Back here where we need ya)
Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back

Yeah we tease him a lot, welcome back, welcome back
Cause we got him on the spot, welcome back, welcome back

Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back

~ArkyAngelsFan~

[Dtwncbad]

Dude you might consider losing the “signature.”

It serves no purpose whatsoever and just comes off as weird.

[James]

Seems like a better fit for Rendon than playing 3rd base. 

[Angel Oracle]

20 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Latest development:

Bob Melvin

Buck Showalter

Gabe Kapler

Suzanne Somers

Darrin Erstad

Too soon

[Angel Oracle]

20 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Sorry I meant Gabe Kaplan.

Up your nose with a rubber hose 

[Angel Oracle]

Two weeks, and still no Ray Montgomery hiring as mgr, that’s encouraging.

Still like the Showalter idea.

Will be 68 next season, same as Bochy this season.

Bring a solid bench coach with him to groom as replacement after say 3 years.

Would bring MUCH needed fundamentals back to the team, and has embraced analytics just enough to have a balance of them and traditional thought.

Works well with younger players.

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Angel Oracle

[Jason]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Up your nose with a rubber hose 

You know what you can do with that coconut?

[Blarg]

53 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Two weeks, and still no Ray Montgomery hiring as mgr, that’s encouraging.

World Series hasn't taken place, it would frowned upon since free agency hasn't even officially begun. 

[Hubs]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Two weeks, and still no Ray Montgomery hiring as mgr, that’s encouraging.

Still like the Showalter idea.

Will be 68 next season, same as Bochy this season.

Bring a solid bench coach with him to groom as replacement after say 3 years.

Would bring MUCH needed fundamentals back to the team, and has embraced analytics just enough to have a balance of them and traditional thought.

Works well with younger players.

 

You know who else is in their 60's, would probably groom a replacement, and bring back fundamentals? Maybe he's too traditional, but 5 years without him have all been disasters. 

 

[mmc]

2 minutes ago, Hubs said:

You know who else is in their 60's, would probably groom a replacement, and bring back fundamentals? Maybe he's too traditional, but 5 years without him have all been disasters. 

 

He also has no interest in managing a major league team

[Hubs]

21 hours ago, mmc said:

He also has no interest in managing a major league team

I think that he doesn't want to leave SoCal. But if he were to be offered the Angels or Dodgers job, he may consider it.

 

[mmc]

3 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I think that he doesn't want to leave SoCal. But if he were to be offered the Angels or Dodgers job, he may consider it.

 

 

[Hubs]

Just now, mmc said:

 

This was from 2022, when they fired Maddon.

Is this how he feels now? Who knows.

[Hubs]

2 minutes ago, Hubs said:

This was from 2022, when they fired Maddon.

Is this how he feels now? Who knows.

Who is your pick @MMC?

Did you want to keep Nevin?

[mmc]

4 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Who is your pick @MMC?

Did you want to keep Nevin?

Think I said it in another thread but Clayton McCollough or Rodney Linares

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

Think I said it in another thread but Clayton McCollough or Rodney Linares

So first time managers?

McCollough never made the majors as a player, but has been a manager in the minors, though. 

Linares is the same way.

Maddon also fit this bill. Ebel as well.

I do think having major league experience, though, as a player helps with respect and connection with veteran players.

 

[mmc]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

So first time managers?

McCollough never made the majors as a player, but has been a manager in the minors, though. 

Linares is the same way.

Maddon also fit this bill. Ebel as well.

I do think having major league experience, though, as a player helps with respect and connection with veteran players.

 

Experience doesn't really mean anything to me, I just want a guy who can 1. work well with the modern front office and 2. earn the respect of and get the most out of our young players

[Hubs]

Just now, mmc said:

Experience doesn't really mean anything to me, I just want a guy who can 1. work well with the modern front office and 2. earn the respect of and get the most out of our young players

I would say those are important, but for me they are in the opposite order. The manager also needs to create and cement a winning culture. Look at what Thompson has done for the Phillies, after taking over for Girardi around the same time as Nevin took over here? 

I'd prefer the GM stay out of lineup and bullpen decisions, and left the manager alone from first pitch to after the game. 

But as I posted in my 49ers thread, they need to get along. The synergy between the front office and manager needs to be seamless.

[Angels 1961]

9 minutes ago, Hubs said:

So first time managers?

McCollough never made the majors as a player, but has been a manager in the minors, though. 

Linares is the same way.

Maddon also fit this bill. Ebel as well.

I do think having major league experience, though, as a player helps with respect and connection with veteran players.

 

Linares has managed in minors. Good with young players and has worked with successful organizations. 

[Hubs]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Linares has managed in minors. Good with young players and has worked with successful organizations. 

Yes but he didn't play in the majors. I think veterans like a guy that played. If you look at the successful managers in 2023, for the most part the ones on the young side all had major league playing experience, and the ones that struggled did not.

There are undoubtably other factors at play, but the Cards with Marmol stand out as this type of manager. The two who made the playoffs who are younger and have success without major league playing career are Hyde and Schneider. Nevin obviously didn't have success and did have a major league playing career.

You may think it doesn't make a difference, but I'd argue younger players look up to successful major leaguers and veterans listen because they respect them as a peer. Just my 2 cents.

For the record:

The Playoff Managers -- (Younger Managers):

Kevin Cash - Played in Majors

Craig Counsell - Played in Majors

Rocco Baldelli - Played in Majors

Dave Roberts - Played in Majors (how is he 51?)

Brandon Hyde - No Major League Playing Career

John Schneider - No Major League Playing Career

Skip Schumacher - Played in Majors

 

The Playoff Managers -- (Older Managers)

Torey Lovullo - Played in Majors

Dusty Baker - Played in Majors

Bruce Bochy - Played in Majors

Rob Thompson - No Major League Playing Career

Brian Snitker - No Major League Playing Career

 

 

[BTH]

It’s funny you say this:

7 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I think veterans like a guy that played

but also say this:

25 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Look at what Thompson has done for the Phillies, after taking over for Girardi around the same time as Nevin took over here? 

Your Thompson examples shows that a manager who has never played in the majors can “create and cement a winning culture.”