Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[TempeAngel]

25 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Of course they do. But then the argument shifts back to "mo ring since 1988, covid rings are as real as yoga pants that sit high on the waste and squeeze your gut into your ass"

I do not concur. There is a case to be made the 2020 WS Championship was more difficult to achieve than a full season World Series Championship.

[Lou]

48 minutes ago, TempeAngel said:

I do not concur. There is a case to be made the 2020 WS Championship was more difficult to achieve than a full season World Series Championship.

Make the case.

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, TempeAngel said:

I do not concur. There is a case to be made the 2020 WS Championship was more difficult to achieve than a full season World Series Championship.

If that’s the case, why not just have a two month season every year?

Any team can get hot for a month in October.   At least make each team earn their way to October.

Any season with the current version of the Marlins in the post-season is dubious.

Edited December 7, 2022 by Angel Oracle

[Dtwncbad]

6 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

I was thinking it was more Klaus than Claus.  

I was thinking it was more like we will get our splash when Santa comes.  Then we should expect a break while he smokes a cigarette wondering if he made a mistake or not.

That’s just how I read it.

[Dtwncbad]

Check out this Dansby Swanson contract prediction from mathematical genius Josh Wilson of Fansided:

 

[Stradling]

 

[jsnpritchett]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 

Rendon is no longer the highest-paid position player! Victory!

[nando714]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 

Yankees are going to continue to waste Judge’s prime years, huh ?

see what I did there 

[wopphil]

That’s absurd money for Judge. I realize last year was historic and he is an excellent player. But he also has an injury history and is on the wrong side of 30. I don’t see this contract aging well. 

[Dtwncbad]

3 minutes ago, wopphil said:

That’s absurd money for Judge. I realize last year was historic and he is an excellent player. But he also has an injury history and is on the wrong side of 30. I don’t see this contract aging well. 

They don’t care.  

[IheartLA]

Judge predicted to put up 35.5 WAR by fangraphs over the next decade. Works out to $10M/WAR, the exact same amount $/WAR Betts, Lindor, Turner got too. Seems to be the going rate for the elite position players.

[IheartLA]

Seems weird though that judge could have ended up getting only $18M more than trea if he accepted the sd offer even with his historic season.

[Dtwncbad]

Judge also will now reportedly, over the next three years, fully pay off his orthodontist.

[Warfarin]

 

Wow, the Padres?  Imagine him in that lineup.  The are definitely going for it, willing to spend a ton of money in the process.  Good for them!

[angelsnationtalk]

Okay, now can the Angels please sign a shortstop today.

[Warfarin]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

If that’s the case, why not just have a two month season every year?

Any team can get hot for a month in October.   At least make each team earn their way to October.

Any season with the current version of the Marlins in the post-season is dubious.

I see your point, but I think this really only holds water if the Dodgers were like, the 7th or 8th best team in the league that somehow snuck in, got hot, and won it all.  But they were the best team in the sport that year (record wise) and I don't think there was any kind of doubt that they would have made it into the playoffs in a normal 162 game season.

Every October, the same scenario plays out about getting hot.  The Phillies arguably did that now and almost won it all.

I'm all for mocking Dodger fans and saying it's not real just to mess with them, but in reality I think that title counts as much as any, especially more than the Astros 2017 one.

[Warfarin]

2 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Okay, now can the Angels please sign a shortstop today.

Hopefully with that out of the way, we will see a cascade of movement now!

[CanadianHalo]

I can’t decide if Judge staying in NY screws us over in the shortstop market or not 

Let’s pretend we do want Correa, did the Giants now throw a bunch of money at him when they otherwise wouldn’t have if they got Judge?

Would the Yanks have went after Xander if they lost out on Judge?

[Warfarin]

 

 

[CanadianHalo]

The guy is 6’7” 282… how much longer can his body hold up? Very curious to see this one play out 

[Warfarin]

So if Judge, at age 30, got a 9/360, what will Ohtani get?  Ohtani will be 1 year younger, 29, next free agency.

10/450?  10/500?

[angelsnationtalk]

8 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

So if Judge, at age 30, got a 9/360, what will Ohtani get?  Ohtani will be 1 year younger, 29, next free agency.

10/450?  10/500?

9yr / $405M

[Dtwncbad]

The story of the Padres making Judge an offer also says:

Judge met with Padres owner Peter Seidler and president of baseball operations A.J. Preller but “it is believed they never got the chance to make a formal bid.”

First of all, the Winter Meetings are in San Diego so you can’t really conclude that Judge being in San Diego was specifically a Padre visit.  So they talked to the Padres.  

So what?

[Revad]

Padres will sign someone and so will the Giants.

[Angels 1961]

15 minutes ago, Revad said:

Padres will sign someone and so will the Giants.

Giant will get a top SS and a top pitcher