Lets Go Mandon!

[Jason]

16 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

People are allowed to change their minds after being presented with new evidence.

And you can't undermine this decision. He showed his pitcher he had no confidence in him to get Seager out. It's not like he made a questionable pitching change; that shit is going to happen all year. This was a decision that's only happened 8 times since 1900. He wanted to make himself the center of attention. 

The fact he was even willing to make that decision last night speaks volumes to who is as a manager. 

Edited April 16, 2022 by Jason

[eligrba]

10 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

People are allowed to change their minds after being presented with new evidence.

And you can't undermine this decision. He showed his pitcher he had no confidence in him to get Seager out. It's not like he made a questionable pitching change; that shit is going to happen all year. This was a decision that's only happened 8 times since 1900. He wanted to make himself the center of attention. 

I'm not defending the decision.....I agree that Maddon showed he had no confidence in the pitcher and honestly neither did I.  However, I would ask why he brought that pitcher in if he didn't have confidence in his pitcher?  I don't think the decision for the IBB is worth getting upset about but publicly revealing the lack of confidence in a young pitcher is worth calling him on for his cowardly decision.  I hated the IBB decision because it was cowardly.  I never realized until that moment how much Maddon is scared of losing this season. 

[Jason]

11 minutes ago, cals said:

And they won.  My prediction is managers will be doing this regularly now.  Just like the 1 inning opener.  

I don’t think so. Maybe it’s just old school to not just give the other team runs

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

That’s 1980s style baseball.  This is the future.

Maybe giving them runs is a good strategy as the other team expects the opposite? Whoa, kind of blowing my own mind here

[T.G.]

1 hour ago, cals said:

Ha ha , Strad you got served sucka

Said the dumbass who had his troll post deleted.

[mtangelsfan]

30 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

People are allowed to change their minds after being presented with new evidence.

And you can't undermine this decision. He showed his pitcher he had no confidence in him to get Seager out. It's not like he made a questionable pitching change; that shit is going to happen all year. This was a decision that's only happened 8 times since 1900. He wanted to make himself the center of attention. 

I don't believe I undermined anything.  I didn't like it but he and every other Angel manager has made horrible, head-scratching decisions.  If you want to talk about levels of bad decisions, that is fine.  I still think it is just one decision and to judge anyone on one decision is foolish IMO.

[Taylor]

Maddon's made a ton of very bad decisions while managing the Angels. This was just the most insane of them all.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, cals said:

Blarg deletes half the things I post, TB.  I take  no offense.  Thank you for noticing, though.

I love that you’re doing this haha 

[Blarg]

14 minutes ago, cals said:

Blarg deletes half the things I post, TB.  I take  no offense.  Thank you for noticing, though.

That was Chuck. You know him, the guy who owns the site and has complete discretion about what and who can stay on the board. 

[mmc]

48 minutes ago, cals said:

And they won.  My prediction is managers will be doing this regularly now.  Just like the 1 inning opener.  

Your defense of Maddon is satire, right?

[Blarg]

5 minutes ago, cals said:

Hey look everybody, Blarg is editing his posts without leaving the reason why.  That’s gotta violate the TOS.

If it did I wouldn't be able to do it, like you can't. 

[Taylor]

11 minutes ago, cals said:

Hey look everybody, Blarg is editing his posts without leaving the reason why.  That’s gotta violate the TOS.

I can do that too.

EDIT: See?

[Blarg]

Is paranoia setting in @cals? 

[Blarg]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

I can do that too.

That's because we trust you. 

[Taylor]

cals is just a victim of the AW system that's biased against him.

 

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

cals is just a victim of the AW system that's biased against him.

 

He should get a good lawyer like @wopphil to fight for him. 

[mmc]

5 minutes ago, cals said:

without being personally attacked?  There is something very wrong with that.

lol

[UndertheHalo]

Taylor after Blarg says that he is trusted : 

[UndertheHalo]

Cals is just honoring TD.  Someone has to do this.  Thanks Cals. 

[mtangelsfan]

well this thread has lost any real discussion.

This argument has ruined many a thread.

[tdawg87]

43 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

I don't believe I undermined anything.  I didn't like it but he and every other Angel manager has made horrible, head-scratching decisions.  If you want to talk about levels of bad decisions, that is fine.  I still think it is just one decision and to judge anyone on one decision is foolish IMO.

Like I said, I don't think you can compare this decision to any of his other decisions. It's like saying "Wow this guy murdered a child but you can't forget he also shoplifted from Macy's for 6 years." 

This is indicative of a manager who not only makes bad decisions, he will make decisions just so he can get attention, even at the behest of the team.

[UndertheHalo]

I just think he’s trying really hard to be big brained and the angels don’t have enough nerds around to tell to stop doing that. 

[Inside Pitch]

This is great!

 

[UndertheHalo]

I think really what all of this proves is that the managers don’t really impact the on the field outcome that much.  Maddon did the most baffling shit imaginable and in the end his team still ended up winning.  The players apparently like him and it seems like the club house culture is good.  That’s probably the area he does have substantial impact.  That part is important also.
 

I do think that someone in Angels management needs to get a handle on some of the whacky shit tho.  Enough is enough.  Most of the successful teams have a bunch of analytics guys figuring out most what’s going on.  It’s time for the Angels to get on board with that. 

Edited April 16, 2022 by UndertheHalo

[tdawg87]

Just now, UndertheHalo said:

I think really what all of this proves is that the managers don’t really impact the on the field outcome that much.

Perhaps, but Maddon tries harder than any other manager to do just that.