Angels DFA Justin Upton, reinstate Ty Buttrey

[tdawg87]

I like it but now we only have 4 outfielders on the 40 man.

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 minutes ago, DMVol said:

Surprised but having Upton on the roster just takes up a spot for a more productive player....and that is a very low bar.....hell, Jack Mayfield is a better player than Justin Upton....most anybody is....props to Perry for not messing around.....

This comes down to left field specifically. Would you rather have Marsh and Ward back there, or Upton and Ward with Marsh in AAA waiting for Upton to get hurt. I still think a healthy Upton out hits both of them, and if Upton isn't healthy then the team can pay him to sit on the IL, just like it will be paying him to play for someone else.

[Robrock30]

I could feel this Move coming watching yesterday's Game.  Chemistry and talent was evident with Adell and Marsh in the inning when Marsh homered.  Ward has also been playing well.  Needed to do this now.

[floplag]

This is so frustrating.
The guy had a solid spring, we couldn't find a single trade even if we ate 90% of the money so instead we eat 100%, again.
Who are they forcing onto the roster that this was necessary?  A lot of us wanted Stefanic to get a shot but only if hes starting it makes no sense for him to sit the bench so if they did this to keep him as a utility guy... it makes even less sense. 
Times like this i really wish i knew what the plan was... were playin a lot of guys out of position to somehow force Fletcher into SS and now this, a very confusing week. 
 

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

my first thought and that would be my guess.   They want to give him a chance to catch on somewhere else 

 

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

This is probably it. They must have decided they wanted to use him as a backup OFer rather than a starter, and he wasn't interested in it. Rather than keeping an unhappy player on the roster, they released him.

Like what reportedly happened with Pujols, even though AP denies it.

Yep, they let him show he could still hit.  He had a productive Spring Training.  He looks to be in shape.   

They didn't allow for him to fail or get injured -- it screams favor.

[DMVol]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

This is probably it. They must have decided they wanted to use him as a backup OFer rather than a starter, and he wasn't interested in it. Rather than keeping an unhappy player on the roster, they released him.

Like what reportedly happened with Pujols, even though AP denies it.

Not trying to bash him just to bash him but who exactly would want Justin Upton in their OF, even for free? He can't stay healthy, he is an awful defensive OF'er and, with age, his hitting skill set is awful.....

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

I like it but now we only have 4 outfielders on the 40 man.

You forgot Joe Maddon is the manager and he values defense and positional flexibility.  Say hello to super sub Jose Rojas..  again...

[AngelsLakersFan]

6 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I'd rather them cut bait and move on from players who they feel aren't going to be solid contributors, especially if there's a good option to take their place.

We saw that last year with Walsh assuming full-time 1B duties, and now we are seeing that with Adell and Marsh as corner OFers.

I would assume Ward will make the team and serve as the backup 1B.

It's not really the same. Albert hadn't been an MLB caliber player for 5 years, and he was already like 45 years old. There was no upside in playing and we had had better options for years.

[bloodbrother]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

I like it but now we only have 4 outfielders on the 40 man.

Won't matter with Maddon around. He'll just randomly put some infielders out at the corners at times

[Taylor]

Just now, DMVol said:

Not trying to bash him just to bash him but who exactly would want Justin Upton in their OF, even for free? He can't stay healthy, he is an awful defensive OF'er and, with age, his hitting skill set is awful.....

Look at it from his perspective. He's been battling injuries for the last couple years. He's had a really great spring offensively. It would take a LOT of humility to accept a 4th OFer role when he's had a pretty decent career as a starter.

It's a no-win situation for him and the Angels.

[Lou]

Great,now who is going to replace his spring training OPS of 1.407?

[Angels 1961]

This makes it easy for Maddon, with Upton gone going with youth. Upton end up in San Diego maybe trade coming?

[DMVol]

3 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

This comes down to left field specifically. Would you rather have Marsh and Ward back there, or Upton and Ward with Marsh in AAA waiting for Upton to get hurt. I still think a healthy Upton out hits both of them, and if Upton isn't healthy then the team can pay him to sit on the IL, just like it will be paying him to play for someone else.

Easy answer for me.....I go with Ward and Marsh....First off, Upton hasn't had a healthy season since 2018.....but we can agree to disagree.....

[stormngt]

3 minutes ago, DMVol said:

Not trying to bash him just to bash him but who exactly would want Justin Upton in their OF, even for free? He can't stay healthy, he is an awful defensive OF'er and, with age, his hitting skill set is awful.....

Universal DH

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Great,now who is going to replace his spring training OPS of 1.407?

You got plans the next 6 months?  Angels may be hiring.

[DMVol]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Look at it from his perspective. He's been battling injuries for the last couple years. He's had a really great spring offensively. It would take a LOT of humility to accept a 4th OFer role when he's had a pretty decent career as a starter.

It's a no-win situation for him and the Angels.

Well, if you're right, then somebody picks him up to start....we'll see.....maybe somebody does.....

[Warfarin]

Just now, stormngt said:

Universal DH

With the universal DH, most teams seem to prefer to rotate the DH spot around, avoiding someone who is permanently entrenched as a DH, unless they are an elite offensive hitter (i.e. Ohtani, Alvarez, Cruz).  Upton's bat isn't good enough to be a universal DH.

[stormngt]

There are only two logical explanations 

1.  It was done as a favor to Upton

2.  Upton spot on the roster would force them to waive and lose another player they feel has good upside.

 

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, floplag said:

This is so frustrating.
The guy had a solid spring, we couldn't find a single trade even if we ate 90% of the money so instead we eat 100%, again.

Or perhaps we couldn't find a single trade Upton would agree to. 

If I were him, I'd reject any trade proposal. That way, I can choose where I want to play.

[AngelsLakersFan]

Just now, DMVol said:

Easy answer for me.....I go with Ward and Marsh....First off, Upton hasn't had a healthy season since 2018.....but we can agree to disagree.....

I think you are probably right 85-90% of the time. I just don't see a lot of downside to giving Upton at least through April to see where he's at. It's not like they couldn't wait for him to get hurt to move on.

[Lou]

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

You got plans the next 6 months?  Angels may be hiring.

Check with my people.

[DMVol]

2 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Universal DH

Could be.....we'll wait and see if anybody bites......

[tdawg87]

Just now, Lou said:

Check with my people.

Who, Mexicans?

[stormngt]

1 minute ago, Warfarin said:

With the universal DH, most teams seem to prefer to rotate the DH spot around, avoiding someone who is permanently entrenched as a DH, unless they are an elite offensive hitter (i.e. Ohtani, Alvarez, Cruz).  Upton's bat isn't good enough to be a universal DH.

I am just speculating.  Upton bat isn't really that bad when healthy.  

[Lou]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

Who, Mexicans?

Don't be that guy.