Why did we get rid of Jim Edmonds?

[halonatic13]

Why did we get rid of Edmonds in his prime?   Was it $?  Or was it GA or Erstad pushing him out?  Was it his injury in his last contact year that did it?  

[Erstad Grit]

Because they knew Kennedy would hit 3hr in the playoffs....

I very vaguely recall some players frustrated with Edmonds lack of caring after losses.  Sounds like an Erstad characteristic.  We definitely moved an A+ talent.  

Edited November 7, 2021 by Erstad Grit

[Revad]

1 hour ago, halonatic13 said:

Why did we get rid of Edmonds in his prime?   Was it $?  Or was it GA or Erstad pushing him out?  Was it his injury in his last contact year that did it?  

He was a damn womanizer and pissed off Erstad with his antics.  That’s what I heard.

[stormngt]

The details are vague due to the lapse of time.

However, my understanding was that there was bitterness how Edmund waited too long to have surgery in the off season that it impacted the season.  Sime words were Saud by both sides and it was evident that Edmonds was going to leave via FA and the franchise had to trade him.

Edited November 7, 2021 by stormngt

[Erstad Grit]

I do recall near the end of Edmonds career on the Brewers or Reds they played in Anaheim and I gave Edmonds a big applause along with 5% of the stadium and most either didn't know or care who the hell he was. One person asked me "why are some cheering for that guy?" 

Could have been an all-time Angel great. 

[Taylor]

47 minutes ago, stormngt said:

The details are vogue due to the lapse of time.

[Taylor]

Because Kent Bottenfield was the piece.

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, halonatic13 said:

Why did we get rid of Edmonds in his prime?   Was it $?  Or was it GA or Erstad pushing him out?  Was it his injury in his last contact year that did it?  

After the collapse of 1999 when the clubhouse and the coaching staff melted down, Tony Tavares wanted the entire young core (he referred to as a bunch of surf bums) traded away. Stoneman tried his best to keep everyone, with no intention of letting go of the young talent but near the end of Spring Training Tavares demanded Edmonds be traded. He made it worse by airing his grievances with Edmonds in the press, destroying Stoneman's ability to get full value from a young Gold Glove, All Star center fielder. 

[Lou]

He was an asshole.

And a drunk. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

allegedly

[HanfordGuy]

I remember my wife (now ex) really became more interested in Angels baseball when she saw Jim Edmonds. When he was traded…not so much.

[OldAndInTheWay]

15 minutes ago, Blarg said:

After the collapse of 1999 when the clubhouse and the coaching staff melted down, Tony Tavares wanted the entire young core (he referred to as a bunch of surf bums) traded away. Stoneman tried his best to keep everyone, with no intention of letting go of the young talent but near the end of Spring Training Tavares demanded Edmonds be traded. He made it worse by airing his grievances with Edmonds in the press, destroying Stoneman's ability to get full value from a young Gold Glove, All Star center fielder. 

Edmonds natural talents were very evident, even to the casual fan. Sometimes his at bats could be frustrating to watch, Edmonds disinterested in performing well when offensive was needed.  Wasn't bothered that Stoneman traded Edmonds but wondered why we got a poor return, all things considered.  Thanks Blarg and others for your insights.

[HanfordGuy]

10 minutes ago, Lou said:

He was an asshole.

And a drunk. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

allegedly

Wait…am I Jim Edmonds???

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

Wait…am I Jim Edmonds???

"was"

[HanfordGuy]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

"was"

So I WAS Jim Edmonds. Makes so much sense now.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

So I WAS Jim Edmonds. Makes so much sense now.

I need a Pop Tart.

 

[Blarg]

3 minutes ago, cals said:

Here’s a little advice:  If Blarg says something, just assume he’s talking out of his ass and he’s not sharing any real information or relevant insights.

Ask @Inside Pitch pitch what his remembrances of Tavares and the Edmonds trade. In fact the entire 1999 season. 

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, cals said:

If he says it, I’ll believe it.

Remember the story of how he hurt his shoulder lifting?   lol...

Dude was in bed with some chick that wasn't his wife..  he fell off the bed and and landed on his shoulder, yes.. really   Disney being all about family mandated the trade and the rest is history.  It was not a move anyone in the front office wanted to make.

There are a shit ton of pretty hilarious/amazing Edmonds stories.  Had he come up in the 60s his antics would have made for legendary stuff.

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, cals said:

I had always heard that he was borderline mentally disabled.

A stoned Spicoli showed greater mental capacities.

[Tank]

7 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

A stoned Spicoli showed greater mental capacities.

[OldAndInTheWay]

6 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

A stoned Spicoli showed greater mental capacities.

Okay @Inside Pitch, spill all the beans on the Jim shit show.

[Inside Pitch]

Edmonds was basically the walking embodiment of bad judgement.  

[failos]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

He was an asshole.

And a drunk. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

allegedly

So the Angels traded a drunk asshole for a drunk asshole.

[stormngt]

So, was I mistaken about Edminds waiting too long for surgery?

[Inside Pitch]

8 minutes ago, stormngt said:

So, was I mistaken about Edminds waiting too long for surgery?

Nah, his shoulder had been an issue for a good 2-3 years.  But what forced the surgery was the fall.  I think the way it was spun was that the players were bent he waited.  Mostly people were bent that he kept doing stupid stuff that was totally avoidable.

Best thing that happened to Edmonds was that trade, it tore him up when it happened and forced him to really take a look at himself.  The dude used to have a posse of his old HS buddies around him when he was in Anaheim and they seemed to bring out the worst in him -- that sort of crap just stopped being an issue after the trade.

[stormngt]

53 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Nah, his shoulder had been an issue for a good 2-3 years.  But what forced the surgery was the fall.  I think the way it was spun was that the players were bent he waited.  Mostly people were bent that he kept doing stupid stuff that was totally avoidable.

Best thing that happened to Edmonds was that trade, it tore him up when it happened and forced him to really take a look at himself.  The dude used to have a posse of his old HS buddies around him when he was in Anaheim and they seemed to bring out the worst in him -- that sort of crap just stopped being an issue after the trade.

Thanks for thebackground info