Official 2021-22 Hot Stove League Thread.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Mets were probably like "we cant match that offer, but we can create a mascot called Mr Matz"

[Angelsfan1984]

3 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Mets were probably like "we cant match that offer, but we can create a mascot called Mr Matz"

We’re willing to change our team name to the New York matz but can only give you 8.75 an hour. Deal?

[totdprods]

Mets fans would absolutely lose it if the Matz deal fell through and he signed with the Angels on a lesser one-year deal instead.

[UndertheHalo]

It’s very funny that the Mets went from the Wilpon’s to tech bro dumb fuck for ownership.  As long as there’s the Mets the Angels will never be the dumbest assholes in the game.  Fuck ya.  

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

So the mets who traded Matz last off season feel wronged that he didn't sign with them this off season?  Makes sense.

[UndertheHalo]

4 minutes ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

So the mets who traded Matz last off season feel wronged that he didn't sign with them this off season?  Makes sense.

No.  You don’t understand.  They very clearly had a pinky promise established.  

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I understand how important a pinky promise or honest negotiations would be to a guy like Cohen who as a paragon of virtue has been been charged with insider trading, investigated by the SEC which led to him not being able to manage money for a few years and was involved in the gamestop short squeeze. 

[UndertheHalo]

3 minutes ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

I understand how important a pinky promise or honest negotiations would be to a guy like Cohen who as a paragon of virtue has been been charged with insider trading, investigated by the SEC which led to him not being able to manage money for a few years and was involved in the gamestop short squeeze. 

I knew you’d remember !

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

2 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

What a pathetic look. A grown ass man goes on Twitter and complains. No wonder why the Mets are a joke. 

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

What a pathetic look. A grown ass man goes on Twitter and complains. No wonder why the Mets are a joke. 

Yup; Good luck Billy.

[angelsnationtalk]

48 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Cohen big mad

Someone's sad we took all their players

[Angelsfan1984]

15 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

What a pathetic look. A grown ass man goes on Twitter and complains. No wonder why the Mets are a joke. 

[Hubs]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

I'm not a big Jon Gray fan. I think top pitchers will get more as each one comes off the board. Lot of competition and I feel Angels need 2 more.

Jon Gray is a hard thrower which is what the Angels typically go after. Also they don’t need two more starters. With Sandoval, Suarez, Barria, Detmers, Canning, Naughton, and Junk… plus other minor league guys on their way up… they’ll be fine with one more add.

[eaterfan]

31 minutes ago, Angels_Make_Me_Drink said:

What a pathetic look. A grown ass man goes on Twitter and complains. No wonder why the Mets are a joke. 

Yup. Mets fans on Twitter don't understand why this is bad for the franchise. 

Cohen looks like a guy who doesn't understand how baseball works, is over emotional, and runs his mouth in public. Why would anyone want to work for him. 

I don't think Arte is a good owner, but even I am thinking to myself that I'm really glad I'm not a Mets fan.

[OldAndInTheWay]

3 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Jon Gray is a hard thrower which is what the Angels typically go after. Also they don’t need two more starters. With Sandoval, Suarez, Barria, Detmers, Canning, Naughton, and Junk… plus other minor league guys on their way up… they’ll be fine with one more add.

So which three starters do you want in a playoff series?  

[Dtwncbad]

Unfortunately I have lost interest in Canning in terms of believing he can be any significant part of a run at a championship any time soon.

He is young enough, and he hasn’t sucked ENOUGH for him to have no trade value.

So I personally would be happy if they used him in the trade market as a piece (with other pieces) to land a better pitcher, or to land a SS.

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

Unfortunately I have lost interest in Canning in terms of believing he can be any significant part of a run at a championship any time soon.

He is young enough, and he hasn’t sucked ENOUGH for him to have no trade value.

So I personally would be happy if they used him in the trade market as a piece (with other pieces) to land a better pitcher, or to land a SS.

Way too early to bail on Canning.  The Angels as an organization are also responsible for his short comings.  It’s pretty obvious that at an organizational level pitchers are not handled well.  Canning is a piece you definitely don’t want to give up on yet.  The Angels need to help him along.  They need to do a much better job developing pitchers.  If they can’t get that figured out it doesn’t matter how many guys they sign.  Snydergaard is going to need coaching or he’s not going to succeed either. 

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Way too early to bail on Canning.

I hear you but it is not way too early to get a good shortstop or improve the rotation.

I am not saying “bail” on him, I am saying convert the value to address a different immediate need.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Great point.

But remember the first time you saw jason gedrick in iron eagle 1, and you were like "id pay to see this guy in every movie I ever see again, ever". And that was only his first movie (and I think only movie)

[UndertheHalo]

7 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I hear you but it is not way too early to get a good shortstop or improve the rotation.

I am not saying “bail” on him, I am saying convert the value to address a different immediate need.

 We’d be selling low. 

[Dtwncbad]

2 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

 We’d be selling low. 

I am comfortable utilizing his actual, fair trade value today to address a different immediate need.

[UndertheHalo]

Fair enough 

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

I often quote somebody and then say something that has nothing to do with what I just quoted. Well done. Thanks. 

One reason 5 years of HS for me. Teacher keep yelling FOCUS

[Jason]

3 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Eppler is a decent GM. We have a not-horrible farm system because of him.

Pitching never seemed to be his area of expertise though 

[Angels 1961]

56 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Jon Gray is a hard thrower which is what the Angels typically go after. Also they don’t need two more starters. With Sandoval, Suarez, Barria, Detmers, Canning, Naughton, and Junk… plus other minor league guys on their way up… they’ll be fine with one more add.

If it is one more starter I hope it's TOR.