Griffin Canning getting an MRI on his elbow

[Justin]

The only thing that could make me feel worse about the Canning situation: thinking he might turn into another Andrew Heaney. 

 

[Dtwncbad]

From now on draft only high school pitchers and go straight to TJ surgery before they play a minor league game.

[Angel Oracle]

27 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

Can Terry Crews pitch?

Sign him.

[nando714]

24 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

So when the TJ?

Seriously just get it done ASAP. Why stall another month

[stevestevens]

28 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

It means he’ll pitch two games in ‘20 and then two games in ‘21 after his comeback. 

[Angel Oracle]

Something tells me that TJS, by mid-decade, will essentially become a common thing for pitchers, like hamstring pulls and balky feet. 

[yk9001]

11 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

From now on draft only high school pitchers and go straight to TJ surgery before they play a minor league game.

That's what happened with Adenhart.  He felt his elbow pop in his last high school game.

[T.G.]

Anytime the term "chronic" is used in an injury or illness, it's not positive.

 

[Stradling]

12 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Anytime the term "chronic" is used in an injury or illness, it's not positive.

 

Racist

[zenmaster]

Translation: he will start throwing in a few weeks, maybe make a start or two, then feel something again, and finally announce he needs TJ. We've been through this a few times.

[nate]

26 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Can Terry Crews pitch?

Sign him.

He is pretty damn yolked for a 50 year old

[yk9001]

7 minutes ago, zenmaster said:

Translation: he will start throwing in a few weeks, maybe make a start or two, then feel something again, and finally announce he needs TJ. We've been through this a few times.

Yeah, I've seen this movie.

[mulwin444]

They are not going to perform surgery when there isn't a tear.  Usually, you will hear something about a grade 1 (stretched but no tear), 2 (stretched and partial tear), or 3 sprain of UCL (complete tear).  So, it sounds like he's grade 1.

Ohtani had a grade 2 sprain in July 2018, they tried PRP injections, let it rehab, and then it tore (grade 3) when he tried pitching before the end of 2018.

Again, Heaney had a partial tear (grade 2), attempted PRP, and, when healing "plateaued", he opted for surgery

GRich?  Yeah, partial tear...

So, unless he has a partial tear (grade 2), it's not the same as these other scenarios.

Could "chronic changes" mean "partial tear"?  Maybe...but they don't say it explicitly 

[JAHV76]

Bummer the Halos pitching woes continue.

[nate]

6 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

They are not going to perform surgery when there isn't a tear.  Usually, you will hear something about a grade 1 (stretched but no tear), 2 (stretched and partial tear), or 3 sprain of UCL (complete tear).  So, it sounds like he's grade 1.

Ohtani had a grade 2 sprain in July 2018, they tried PRP injections, let it rehab, and then it tore (grade 3) when he tried pitching before the end of 2018.

Again, Heaney had a partial tear (grade 2), attempted PRP, and, when healing "plateaued", he opted for surgery

GRich?  Yeah, partial tear...

So, unless he has a partial tear (grade 2), it's not the same as these other scenarios.

Could "chronic changes" mean "partial tear"?  Maybe...but they don't say it explicitly 

The upshot is that the Angels must get a volume discount on TJS by now.

[Inside Pitch]

35 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Something tells me that TJS, by mid-decade, will essentially become a common thing for pitchers, like hamstring pulls and balky feet. 

We are kind of already there.

[Inside Pitch]

5 minutes ago, RendZone said:

Sounds like a good title for your upcoming autobiography.

[Justin]

If you have a medical background, or if you simply have knowledge of these type of injuries, I'm genuinely curious: Is there any chance this doesn't get worse? Is there a scenario where he gets a month or two of not pitching and the elbow is fine? 

Or is it a guarantee that it will only get worse with pitching and he will need surgery? 

[T.G.]

 

[T.G.]

 

[bloodbrother]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

This doesn't sound promising.

 

Ohhhhh I know this story! He'll get stem cell treatment, rehab for a few months just to return around midseason, make a start or 2 before going back on the IL. Next up is the news of him needing TJS sometime in August that wipes him out for all of next season.

[Stradling]

How many of you get surgery before a doctor tells you that you need surgery?   Or get a tooth pulled and replaced with an implant because of a couple of  cavities on that tooth?  If there is no tear then he is probably not getting TJ surgery until there is a tear.  It sucks as a fan because of the timeline but it is what it is.  

[T.G.]

37 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Racist

I don't get it.

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, True Grich said:

I don't get it.

It was a Dr Dre reference.

[T.G.]

11 minutes ago, Stradling said:

It was a Dr Dre reference.

Does he perform TJ surgeries?