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SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19


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2 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

The article isn't very clear, except that they didn't find the evidence of the lab closing to be compelling enough to say that it happened. There are just a lot of oddities, and I think the main reason for that is simply that China has lied about and been secretive about much of this. They do not want the world to piece together the entire picture. 

Except that it makes no sense for China to release something like this that would infect the world's population. China is largely dependent upon exports for income. It would be self destructive for them to set in motion something that would decimate world economies like that.

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14 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

So we're at 80,000 deaths. How many of those are not from Covid but something else that just gets labeled as Covid because?

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-testing-and-treatment-if-you-have-no-health-insurance

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But on April 3, the White House announced that it will be aiming $100 billion in emergency spending toward hospitals and health providers for treating uninsured coronavirus patients.

So you have an uninsured person, with heart failure.  He can't pay, but has the Rona.  What killed him?

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5 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Except that it makes no sense for China to release something like this that would infect the world's population. China is largely dependent upon exports for income. It would be self destructive for them to set in motion something that would decimate world economies like that.

War is self destructive.  Just look at the numbers.  It's crippling with staggering debt most countries.  And yet the one with 1.7 billion people in it gets off relatively easy.  

If the second wave this winter is really bad.  They could have won World War 3 without having fired a bullet.  

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33 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Except that it makes no sense for China to release something like this that would infect the world's population. China is largely dependent upon exports for income. It would be self destructive for them to set in motion something that would decimate world economies like that.

I don't think there is any evidence to suggest it was on purpose. Most of the circumstantial evidence points to incompetence.

 

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1 hour ago, gotbeer said:

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-testing-and-treatment-if-you-have-no-health-insurance

So you have an uninsured person, with heart failure.  He can't pay, but has the Rona.  What killed him?

What are you saying here ? If someone suffers from heart failure and contracts coronavirus and dies it may very well be that they succumbed as a consequence of coronavirus.  That should with complete justification be characterized as a death due to coronavirus.  What is your point ?

it really sounds like your basically tapping your watch and telling the sick person to fuck off and die. 

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13 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

What are you saying here ? If someone suffers from heart failure and contracts coronavirus and dies it may very well be that they succumbed as a consequence of coronavirus.  That should with complete justification be characterized as a death due to coronavirus.  What is your point ?

it really sounds like your basically tapping your watch and telling the sick person to fuck off and die. 

Man did you even read the article.  What I'm saying is that if a hospital has a choice between putting his actual cause of death, or Rona, and the person is uninsured.  100% of the time they are going to put down Rona so that they can get money from the government instead of possibly getting no money at all.  

You have to be pretty jaded and angry if you think that from what I said, the only option is to let him die.

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