All I want For Christmas is Ryu

[failos]

Make it happen Eppler. Some kind of incentivized contract would certainly put our minds to ease, but at this point I'll take anything.

A rotation of Ohtani, Ryu, Heaney, Canning, Sandoval, and Bundy is competitive enough.

[angelsnationtalk]

This ain't it

[Revad]

Ryu is the best pitcher left and I think the risk is worth it.  Workload management to have him healthy and strong for the playoffs.

[hangin n wangin]

Honestly, I wouldn't give this fat shit more than 2 years. He's way too much of a risk. He's a walking pussy.

[Jay]

9 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

Honestly, I wouldn't give this fat shit more than 2 years. He's way too much of a risk. He's a walking pussy.

lol wow.

now I know we're going to get him.

[AngelsFaninGA]

He pitched 210 innings total between 2015-2018 and conveniently managed to stay healthy during his contract year at the ripe old age of 32. Considering durability has been the biggest concern with our pitching staff over the years I would stay very far away. 

[Second Base]

Sorry, I've set my expectations higher. I wanted Cole and Wheeler. Then I wanted Cole and Ryu. Now I want Ryu and Keuchel or Price. 

[Lou]

23 minutes ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

He pitched 210 innings total between 2015-2018 and conveniently managed to stay healthy during his contract year at the ripe old age of 32.

2018 was also his contract year. 

[hangin n wangin]

I really am bummed about not getting Wheeler. I understand not getting Cole. We got out bid and that was a massive over pay. I would seriously rather have Rendon. I think the contract we gave him is solid and that he will be productive through out the bulk of it.

But seeing the available pitchers now and seeing what Wheeler signed for with the Phillies is disappointing. 5 years 117 million for a guy that throws 98 MPH, has good periphials, is still in his prime, and has the potential to improve on his numbers sounds amazing considering what Ryu and Keuchel seem to want. I understand Ryu is good, but he literally cannot be trusted. Keuchel has underwhelming advanced stats and I just can't get excited about him. Maybe if it was 4 years ago. 

Wheeler was the best bang for your wang and we didn't get it. At this point, we're probably going to sign a pitcher to a overpaid contract just because everyone knows we need one, but it's going to prohibit us from spending more in the near future on stuff we will need (better pitching). To add, the results of signing these pitchers isn't likely to put us in serious contention due to the fact that the options are either severely injury prone (Ryu) or just pitchers that don't have any upside whatsoever.

I do not like. I'm happy about signing Rendon, but I don't see myself being excited about whatever staff we throw out there next year. Signing a low upside innings eater like Keuchel doesn't really change that for me. I'm not saying he won't help, but I think we really missed on the person that could've helped us the most in the present and in the future in Zach Wheeler.

[ettin]

13 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

I'm happy about signing Rendon, but I don't see myself being excited about whatever staff we throw out there next year. Signing a low upside innings eater like Keuchel doesn't really change that for me. I'm not saying he won't help, but I think we really missed on the person that could've helped us the most in the present and in the future in Zach Wheeler.

The off-season is not over yet so I'd hold off judgment until it is.

[AngelsFaninGA]

25 minutes ago, Lou said:

2018 was also his contract year. 

Still wouldn't touch him given the durability concerns, unless we also plan on signing both Keuchel and Teheran to cover for him when he goes down after 50 innings

[Rally Gorilla]

IMHO, SP is overpriced this off season.  These huge long term contracts make them bad risks.    Let other teams overpay and sweat it out while much of their future rides on a veteran pitcher's elbow. 

[Jeremiah]

22 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

I really am bummed about not getting Wheeler. I understand not getting Cole. We got out bid and that was a massive over pay. I would seriously rather have Rendon. I think the contract we gave him is solid and that he will be productive through out the bulk of it.

But seeing the available pitchers now and seeing what Wheeler signed for with the Phillies is disappointing. 5 years 117 million for a guy that throws 98 MPH, has good periphials, is still in his prime, and has the potential to improve on his numbers sounds amazing considering what Ryu and Keuchel seem to want. I understand Ryu is good, but he literally cannot be trusted. Keuchel has underwhelming advanced stats and I just can't get excited about him. Maybe if it was 4 years ago. 

Wheeler was the best bang for your wang and we didn't get it. At this point, we're probably going to sign a pitcher to a overpaid contract just because everyone knows we need one, but it's going to prohibit us from spending more in the near future on stuff we will need (better pitching). To add, the results of signing these pitchers isn't likely to put us in serious contention due to the fact that the options are either severely injury prone (Ryu) or just pitchers that don't have any upside whatsoever.

I do not like. I'm happy about signing Rendon, but I don't see myself being excited about whatever staff we throw out there next year. Signing a low upside innings eater like Keuchel doesn't really change that for me. I'm not saying he won't help, but I think we really missed on the person that could've helped us the most in the present and in the future in Zach Wheeler.

I would have liked Wheeler too. I just don’t think the Halos had a real shot at him. He went where his fiancé preferred to be. ChiSox were reportedly the highest bidder, and that was apparently too far west. I think geography was the most important thing for him, all offers being pretty equal. I think it was the same for Bumgarner and Stras as well.

[Lou]

Ryu over his last 3 years:

68 GS

2.71 ERA

 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

Ryu over his last 3 years:

68 GS

2.71 ERA

 

But fantasy

[HaloNArizona]

I am good with either Ryu or Kuechel...but I want to trade for Robbie Ray.  I think he is under appreciated.  Getting away from Chase field and Arizona, I think Ray can be a very solid #2/#3 pitcher.  

[Angel Oracle]

41 minutes ago, ettin said:

The off-season is not over yet so I'd hold off judgment until it is.

 Plus, didn't Wheeler prefer pitching back East? 

[Jeremiah]

8 minutes ago, Stradling said:

But fantasy

Right? And overpaid (just like every other FA pitcher this offseason).

[popo85]

5 minutes ago, HaloNArizona said:

I am good with either Ryu or Kuechel...but I want to trade for Robbie Ray.  I think he is under appreciated.  Getting away from Chase field and Arizona, I think Ray can be a very solid #2/#3 pitcher.  

Or Gray from Colorado along with Ryu or Keuchel

[Jeremiah]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

 Plus, didn't Wheeler prefer pitching back East? 

That he did. It was his fiancée’s preference.

[Angel Oracle]

12 minutes ago, Lou said:

Ryu over his last 3 years:

68 GS

2.71 ERA

 

There's no question that if Ryu had a better health history, big bucks would have come his way.    2.98 career ERA and 1.16 career WHIP, so far

The past two years have especially been outstanding (collective 2.21 ERA and 1.01 WHIP in 265 innings).    Is he finally going to be healthy enough, to make it through 3 seasons making at least 27 starts in each?

[Angel Oracle]

28 minutes ago, Jeremiah said:

I would have liked Wheeler too. I just don’t think the Halos had a real shot at him. He went where his fiancé preferred to be. ChiSox were reportedly the highest bidder, and that was apparently too far west. I think geography was the most important thing for him, all offers being pretty equal. I think it was the same for Bumgarner and Stras as well.

And Corbin and Morton a year ago

[Dick B Back]

1 hour ago, BackUpTheTruck said:

Ryu, if signed, would immediately become our #1 starter.

And since Cozart is gone, he’d be the first one on the DL.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

There's no question that if Ryu had a better health history, big bucks would have come his way.    2.98 career ERA and 1.16 career WHIP, so far

The past two years have especially been outstanding (collective 2.21 ERA and 1.01 WHIP in 265 innings).    Is he finally going to be healthy enough, to make it through 3 seasons making at least 27 starts in each?

trust me, I get the concerns. however, in 2017 & 2019 he combined for 53 starts. 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Dick B Back said:

And since Cozart is gone, he’d be the first one on the DL.

Heaney: hold my beer