Official MLB Hot Stove Thread (no Angels rumors or news here)

[Angel Oracle]

Cabrera is 34 in 2017.   Yes he could hit until age 39-40, like Ortiz did.   He could also begin to decline very soon, because of the weight issue.

Offense happy Minute Maid Park would be very inviting for 81 games as would Arlington for 9-10 games, but he also would be playing 9-10 games each yearly in pitching friendly Angel Stadium, Safeco Field, and O.Com Stadium.

[totdprods]

Braves sign RA Dickey. While not a perfect comparison, his contract could offer an idea on what a potential Jered Weaver contract would look like. He's getting a one-year deal plus an option.

[nando714]

Are FA free to sign anywhere now? Are they all just waiting for top FA to set the market?

[totdprods]

7 minutes ago, nando714 said:

Are FA free to sign anywhere now? Are they all just waiting for top FA to set the market?

They are available to sign with anyone, it's just typically still way too early for anything significant to happen. 

[Troll Daddy]

Trades talks between Dodgers and Tigers for Verlander.

What's going on with the Tigers?

[tomsred]

26 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

Trades talks between Dodgers and Tigers for Verlander.

What's going on with the Tigers?

They want to get younger and cheaper.

[nando714]

If I'm the dodgers I'd rather go after Gray from Oakland. Dodgers would just eat a bunch of verlander's salary. Tigers could throw in kinsler salary too

like the Boston deal a few years ago 

[Troll Daddy]

35 minutes ago, tomsred said:

They want to get younger and cheaper.

I keep telling my wife that ... 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

2 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Trades talks between Dodgers and Tigers for Verlander.

What's going on with the Tigers?

From what I have read, anyone making major bucks is available. My guess is that they took a look at what the Indians did in the same division for a lot less cost. The Tigers had the fourth-highest payroll in the game (behind only the Dodgers, Yankees and Red Sox in that order), but they finished eight games behind the Indians, who had a payroll of about $91M less.

MLB Team Payroll Tracker

[Richard]

4 hours ago, nando714 said:

If I'm the dodgers I'd rather go after Gray from Oakland. Dodgers would just eat a bunch of verlander's salary. Tigers could throw in kinsler salary too

like the Boston deal a few years ago 

Salary is something the Dodgers have no care for.

[Richard]

4 hours ago, tomsred said:

They want to get younger and cheaper.

Reading the white sox as well. 

Abreu for cron+mid level prospect!

[totdprods]

Colon to the Braves. He could have been a fit. Crazy that his last 4 seasons have been basically 200 IP each year with an average 3.59 ERA. 

He got a one-year, $12.5m deal.

[Troll Daddy]

55 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Colon to the Braves. He could have been a fit. Crazy that his last 4 seasons have been basically 200 IP each year with an average 3.59 ERA. 

He got a one-year, $12.5m deal.

I love baseball ... Colon has been in decline for over ten years. 

[totdprods]

5 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

I love baseball ... Colon has been in decline for over ten years. 

Uh, he's practically been the opposite. He hasn't had a bad season in the last decade. His 2016 was better than his 2015.

'06-'07: 5.90 ERA, 1.56 WHIP in 155 IP
'08-'16: 3.67 ERA, 1.23 WHIP in 1200 IP

Since turning 40, in four seasons he has thrown 779 IP of 3.59 ERA ball with a 1.21 WHIP. 

 

[Lou]

31 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Uh, he's practically been the opposite. He hasn't had a bad season in the last decade. His 2016 was better than his 2015.

'06-'07: 5.90 ERA, 1.56 WHIP in 155 IP
'08-'16: 3.67 ERA, 1.23 WHIP in 1200 IP

Since turning 40, in four seasons he has thrown 779 IP of 3.59 ERA ball with a 1.21 WHIP. 

 

the last 3 is mainly due to pitching in CitiField. His numbers there were much better than they were on the road. 

but.... he's been so much better than I ever thought he would be at this stage in his career. I dig Bart 

[totdprods]

Lourdes Gurriel to the Blue Jays, 7-yr/$22m, probably with some incentives built in.

[totdprods]

I don't think it's been mentioned anywhere, but read some tweets that the Angels have signed a couple minor-league pitchers - Luis Diaz and Justin Miller. Basically just AA/AAA depth, nothing jumping out too much on either of them.

[Richard]

@Chuckster70

 

 

[totdprods]

Seems like the offseason is moving a little quicker than usual this year. Nothing really major yet, but it seems a little early for some of the specific interest in free agents and teams being mentioned.

[Troll Daddy]

Angels could use Morales ... LH bat who plays first base

[Richard]

and it's done.

 

 

[nando714]

1 too many years for me. 

[totdprods]

Good deal for them, takes a lot of pressure off potentially losing Bautista, Encarnacion, and Saunders.

[Broad Street]

What are the Braves doing? Trying to have the oldest rotation of all time?

[Stradling]

The Braves are trying to protect their young pitchers so they signed a couple of inning eaters (insert Colon joke here).