My Turn

[halonatic13]

Justin Upton, Daniel Murphy, a bullpen arm and we are good.  This would make for a great team.  

 

It gets us over the luxury tax but it's only for 1 year.  Arte, you've got the bucks.

[2112]

I get the feeling they're going cheap with this time.    Unless they're able to move Wilson or Weaver, which I hope not.

[DMVol]

I get the feeling they're going cheap with this time.    Unless they're able to move Wilson or Weaver, which I hope not.

I would expect somewhere between cheap (Murphy platoon in LF) and big (on of the big 4 LF'ers)....maybe Parra, Fowler, maybe even the South Korean OF'er Kim.....probably a relief pitcher now that Gott is traded.....If we don't "go big" it will be the 3rd straight offseason that the Pujols and Hamilton signings have limited DiPoto and now Eppler to trades and/or nibbling around the edges in the FA market....and, to this point, I haven't been impressed with Eppler's trades....I liked DiPoto's trades by in large (although he missed a few).....hope Eppler proves me wrong...

[halonatic13]

Next year's free agents for outfield is TERRIBLE!  Eppler knows this.  Going for a platoon in the outfield is a terrible idea.  At this point, I'm down for any of the top 4/5 outfield guys.  We need that impact bat.  I think needs to become a #5 hitter now and let our new OF hitter step in.  Gosh I hope!

[totdprods]

Next year's free agents for outfield is TERRIBLE!  Eppler knows this.  Going for a platoon in the outfield is a terrible idea.  At this point, I'm down for any of the top 4/5 outfield guys.  We need that impact bat.  I think needs to become a #5 hitter now and let our new OF hitter step in.  Gosh I hope!

I mentioned this in another thread, but reportedly the Padres are dangling two of their top OF prospects, including Hunter Renfroe. 

Maybe not the Padres specifically, but what if we dealt one of Skaggs/Heaney for a top OF prospect (and maybe a Gott-type prospect or salary dump reliever) and signed one of the Maeda/Leake/Gallardo/Chen group?

 

We have a dearth of pitching, and it'd be nice to add a really nice young OF top prospect, something only Heaney or Skaggs would bring back, and then supplement in the heavy SP FA class. It might weaken us a bit for 2016 but set us up much better in the long-haul.

Edited December 11, 2015 by totdprods

[Mark68]

Daniel Murphy would not be a good acquisition, IMHO. He's getting older and is already not good defensively. Don't let his playoff heroics sway you. He also made some critical errors in the World Series.

Edited December 11, 2015 by Mark68

[VariousCrap]

I actually think Dexter Fowler for LF, Daniel Murphy for 2B and a bullpen arm is what needs to happen.  

 

Fowler will be cheaper than any of the big four OF guys and if one thing was clear this Winter Meetings it is that the market for Murphy is not as big as expected.  The Mets decided to move on from him and the Dodgers went another way as well.  There just aren't that many teams looking for a 2B and despite his playoff heroics, he is not going to get the contract people thought he would prior to the offseason starting.

[totdprods]

I actually think Dexter Fowler for LF, Daniel Murphy for 2B and a bullpen arm is what needs to happen.  

 

Fowler will be cheaper than any of the big four OF guys and if one thing was clear this Winter Meetings it is that the market for Murphy is not as big as expected.  The Mets decided to move on from him and the Dodgers went another way as well.  There just aren't that many teams looking for a 2B and despite his playoff heroics, he is not going to get the contract people thought he would prior to the offseason starting.

Yup, I think he may wind up being a reasonably affordable option. He'd add a lefty bat, and with the addition of Escobar now, we could put Murphy at #2 or further down in the line-up to balance things out a bit. 

[Hubs]

I actually think Dexter Fowler for LF, Daniel Murphy for 2B and a bullpen arm is what needs to happen.  

 

Fowler will be cheaper than any of the big four OF guys and if one thing was clear this Winter Meetings it is that the market for Murphy is not as big as expected.  The Mets decided to move on from him and the Dodgers went another way as well.  There just aren't that many teams looking for a 2B and despite his playoff heroics, he is not going to get the contract people thought he would prior to the offseason starting.

 

 

I'd actually say Denard Span is a better investment than Fowler as they are very similar center fielders but Span won't cost a draft pick. And they always could resign Freese.

[Troll Daddy]

Curious as to why some of you prefer Murphy over Kendrick.

[halosfan1970]

Curious as to why some of you prefer Murphy over Kendrick.

 

Honestly, both cost a draft pick, so Murphy's left handed bat is his only real selling point over Kendrick.

[NorCal Halo]

I'd actually say Denard Span is a better investment than Fowler as they are very similar center fielders but Span won't cost a draft pick. And they always could resign Freese.

Span then Escobar would set the table nicely for Trout.  I like Span's ability to steel.

[halonatic13]

But we need more power Captain!

[Angel Oracle]

Trading Heaney or Skaggs, after trading Newcomb, would be a crazy bad thing to do.

Trade Santiago and let Wilson go elsewhere soon.    Then, having two lefties (Heaney and Skaggs) in the rotation is ideal.

[tomsred]

But we need more power Captain!

 

I think that is true, we don't know how long Pujols will be down.  I would hate to get too far behind at the beginning of the season until our full roster is ready.  Houston and Texas may bury us early.

[tomsred]

Trading Heaney or Skaggs, after trading Newcomb, would be a crazy bad thing to do.

Trade Santiago and let Wilson go elsewhere soon.    Then, having two lefties (Heaney and Skaggs) in the rotation is ideal.

 

I'm kind of hoping Wilson has a career year, then we give him a QO that he turns down, and we get an extra pick in 2017 when he signs elsewhere.

Edited December 11, 2015 by tomsred

[halosfan1970]

I think that is true, we don't know how long Pujols will be down.  I would hate to get too far behind at the beginning of the season until our full roster is ready.  Houston and Texas may bury us early.

 

Look at Pujols' 2015 season. I'm guessing but I have no doubt he will produce 30 HRs in 2016. Unfortunately, for Pujols to do that, we are going to see a BA of .230 and 25 GIDP. An opposite field double from Pujols is going to become myth from the past.

[ukyah]

if you're going to go for a fowler, who costs a pick, or a span, who is injured, then why not just trade for revere?

[Troll Daddy]

I'm kind of hoping Wilson has a career year, then we give him a QO that he turns down, and we get an extra pick in 2017 when he signs elsewhere.

If the Angels don't end up getting one of the big free agents ... then trading Wilson early doesn't make sense. I expect Wilson to be a front end starter and innings eater next season.

[Troll Daddy]

Look at Pujols' 2015 season. I'm guessing but I have no doubt he will produce 30 HRs in 2016. Unfortunately, for Pujols to do that, we are going to see a BA of .230 and 25 GIDP. An opposite field double from Pujols is going to become myth from the past.

I agree. If Pujols can come to camp twenty pounds lighter ... I think his batting average should improve.

Edited December 11, 2015 by Troll Daddy

[halosfan1970]

If the Angels don't end up getting one of the big free agents ... then trading Wilson early doesn't make sense. I expect Wilson to be a front end starter and innings eater next season.

 

If Wilson pitches well and the Angels are in contention in July, there is no reason to trade him at all. If he's giving you an ERA of 3.50 and pitching toward 200 innings, keep him and give him a QO at the end of the season.

[Erstad Grit]

Without Upton or Cespedes this offseason would be a bust. 

 

I'm fine with Gio at 2b. 

[halosfan1970]

Without Upton or Cespedes this offseason would be a bust. 

 

I'm fine with Gio at 2b. 

 

Can I ask... why are you OK with Giavotella at 2B? His defense in 2015 was statistically baseball's worst. If another 2B can come close to his .694 OPS and play basic, league average defense, that would be a 2.2 WAR player instead of a 1.0 WAR player.

[Hubs]

Do we think Cowart or Kubitza could manage a .700 OPS? I'm honestly just wondering. I think they could, despite last years results. 

 

A players first few games in the majors aren't usually a true test of where he's going to be at.

[Chris]

Sign Upton for LF.

 

Sign Clippard for 7th inning.

 

Trade Santiago for Phillips for 2B.  Use Escobar at 3B.