Obama failed to contain In N Out

[mtangelsfan]

according to an upcoming Frontline documentary:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-white-house-did-little-to-stop--the-rise-of-isis---says-frontline-documentary-133053988.html

 

 

 

[nate]

Everything in that region has been so incredibly bungled by this administration and the last.

[Adam]

Most likely on purpose. 

[acro2008]

Most likely on purpose. 

 

Yes, probaby more "order out of chaos"

[Blarg]

I would blame Islam for allowing ISIS to exist.

[tdawg87]

I would blame Islam for allowing ISIS to exist.

 

You would, but do you?

[shellback]

outstanding job creation for military and defense contractors. the way that mess is going, those boys will never be out of work.

[acro2008]

A lot of blame to go around.  Months ago many news  sources reported Saudia Arabia and Qatar, our allies were funding Isis, which would be consistent historically.  Then last month Obama said "the US underestimated the rise of Isis" but with a contradictory policy of funding syrian rebels, resulting in the the US essentially funding Isis.  The American people should be so sick of being lied to while our country's reputation gradually descends.    

[TobiasFunke]

Did the public think it was going to be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel?

[gotbeer]

Did the public think it was going to be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel?

 

Considering how much of the public was for this action.  Yes.

[TobiasFunke]

Considering how much of the public was for this action.  Yes.

Just because the majority of the public was for action doesn't mean it was going to be shooting fish in a barrel. We all knew it was going to be pulling teeth waging a war with IS and other extremists that are youtube waging war on The West.

[Schildog]

You know I had no idea Frontline was an actual show til a couple of months ago. The only thing I knew about it prior was Clayton Bigsby on Chapelle.

[TobiasFunke]

You know I had no idea Frontline was an actual show til a couple of months ago. The only thing I knew about it prior was Clayton Bigsby on Chapelle.

Haha first thing I thought of too when I heard Frontline.

[nate]

It massacres the **** outta fleas.

[arch stanton]

A story similar to this would be told no matter what action we took in Syria because there is no good side to be on. Once IS rolled into Iraq I have no doubt that the intent was to let them run Malaki out of office before we would lift a finger. The countries in the region have already bought hundreds of billions of dollars worth of military hardware from us. How can we get them to buy more without a chance to use it?

[gotbeer]

Obama’s Syria strategy suffers a major setback

 

[Lhalo]

What a waste of time it is to get involved in Syria. This administration is beyond pathetic.

 

If anything, we should just give the Kurds some support and call it a day.

[Skram]

Did the public think it was going to be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel?

 

I thought there was probably a chance for victory with clearly defined goals and a mission defined by the military, not politicians. Oh, and none of this fiction about somehow it isn't a war if we only do airstrikes

[Schildog]

i could not agree more about your first statement. all of our recent excursions in south asia/middle east have all ended in an efficient and timely manner.

[mtangelsfan]

Well, he did say defined by the military and I don't think we've had one conflict in Asia where we have had that.  Not saying it would have worked out anyways but I was always in favor of going after the Taliban after 9/11.

[Schildog]

what do you mean by defined by the military? 

[mtangelsfan]

North Korea and Viet Nam especially were wars that the military's hands were tied on what they could and could not do.  I think that once a clear goal has been defined ( and that has seemingly been difficult for our leadership to do now for the last half century) you need to step off and let the military reach that goal. 

[TobiasFunke]

No wars are fought without political influence

[mtangelsfan]

Of course not, but it can be curtailed with purposeful goals that are clear and attainable.  

[arch stanton]

When it comes to defeating another military we do it better then anyone. When it comes to going into another country and battling an indistinguishable group of its citizens for an unspecified length of time we also do it better than anyone, which is to say that we do it poorly instead of failing miserably.