So what is everyone's thoughts on Obama's plan for ISIS?

[Hollyw00d]

I just think that humans often (if not usually) have the ability to think about and understand complex topics. In your story of the farmer, what would he think if ISIS had stormed a nearby town three weeks earlier and killed several people then raped his cousin? Is everyone now evil? Does his head explode because he can't figure out who to support?

that's a fair point.

im not talking about understanding the conflict. I mean dealing with it, because its right outside your front door. Its easy for us to sit here in comfy America and judge foreigners and countries thousands of miles away and decide the fate of thousands of lives just because a lot of americans think Muslims are evil.

for the people in the middle of it, who are just trying to live some semblance of a normal life. I'm sure its much more difficult.

[tdawg87]

It's hopeless. Political correctness will get us all killed.

Wake up and smell the Jihad, folks.

Wake up white sheeple

[Blarg]

We should act quickly while we have superior numbers. Holy war against the Jihadists, go!

[InsideThePark]

It is hard to come down to hard on the anti-muslim crowd. Certainly there are a lot of peaceful muslims just trying to make a life for themselves and their families like the rest of us. 

 

The unfortunate thing is the Islamic extremists aren't a fringe group. It is a significant number of the overall muslim population. That is where the differ from other extremists.

I just think it would be a sad day if it became socially acceptable to vent hate towards muslims. The vast majority of them are good people. Now I definitely agree that it's not just a few bad apples but much of that has to do with the instability in the Middle East. Anarchy would be alive and well here if we didn't have law enforcement in order. We civilians have it pretty good over here.

[Jay]

Depends what you mean by "venting hatred" but yeah the day is here, today.

[fan_since79]

His Facebook page has nothing to do with this true intentions. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

http://thepunditpress.com/2014/09/26/alton-alexander-nolen-facebook-found-92614/

 

...he states, that he is now a “True Follower Of The Messenger of Allah.”

In another post, Nolen wrote that he was sent to not bring peace, “but a sword… JIHAD JIHAD JIHAD.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

[arch stanton]

So maybe we need a team of concerned citizens to peruse social media and report all the chatter. The government resources are all occupied listening to the German chancellor or battling the bad guys 2 continents away.

[bakunin]

My best friends girlfriend's father is a Chechen living in Syria who is a Shia Muslim and he is loyal to Assad. They know the deal there. They know that Assad is the man protecting Syrian people and that America is unfortunately aiding the enemy. 

Edited September 27, 2014 by bakunin

[Jay]

Well, we probably need a few more beheaddings before people get pissed.

[Jay]

My best friends girlfriend's father is a Chechen living in Syria who is a Shia Muslim and he is loyal to Assad. They know the deal there. They know that Assad is the man protecting Syrian people and that America is unfortunately aiding the enemy.

wait, I thought we are aiding Assad

[fan_since79]

He has 1,338 recent "Friends". I never knew there were that many Amish people in Oklahoma.

 

http://pastebin.com/u1wBgMTm

Edited September 27, 2014 by fan_since79

[fan_since79]

wait, I thought we are aiding Assad

 

Well, we just hope he wins out because he's slightly less bad than ISIS.

[InsideThePark]

In America, our red state, redneck intolerant base has made American Muslims flag-waving "hey buddy, hey buddy, I love america" patriots. That's not a bad thing.

I have no idea what this means. Have you been drinking, sir?

For some reason, I don't really mind when you vent about this. You've already admitted to being prejudiced several times and then there's the fact that you're good for comedy relief (in a good way). Something tells me that I should feel a little annoyed when you go on these rants but I simply don't.

[Kevin]

wait, I thought we are aiding Assad

We are aiding Assad by trying to defeat IS. We are hoping to overthrow Assad by aiding the moderates. Makes sense, right? Right? Anyone?

[bakunin]

You know where it isnt socially acceptable to hate on Muslims? Europe, specifically England. And you know what they have there? Openly radical western hating jihadist clerics. In America, our red state, redneck intolerant base has made American Muslims flag-waving "hey buddy, hey buddy, I love america" patriots. That's not a bad thing.

And speaking of Euro Muslims, I'm tired of everyone using the shit conditions in the Mid East as the excuse for radical Islam. Most of the Euro ones grew up in low to upper middle class in decent, stable societies. And plenty of the nuts are coming from Europe.

 

Not just openly jihadist clerics, but mass rapes of little engilsh girls, 1400 of them in Rotherham. If you want diversity, well England, you've gotten it. 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/26/rotherham-sexual-abuse-children

Edited September 27, 2014 by bakunin

[Lou]

am I an Ahole for not really giving a damn what happens in the middle east anymore?

It's not that I don't care what happens to innocent people, it's just that I don't think anything will ever change there. 

[floplag]

It is hard to come down to hard on the anti-muslim crowd. Certainly there are a lot of peaceful muslims just trying to make a life for themselves and their families like the rest of us. 

 

The unfortunate thing is the Islamic extremists aren't a fringe group. It is a significant number of the overall muslim population. That is where the differ from other extremists. 

 

You know.. this is a valid point.. we talk of these groups like they are Westboro Baptist or something.. there are enough of them to take over countries, that is significant.

Still doesn't make other Muslims accountable for them or their actions mind you, but it is significant. 

[floplag]

imagine you lived in syria.  A humble muslim farmer just trying to hold your land and family together. 

 

All of a sudden you see a tomahawk missile fly over and land nearby, causing massive destruction and death.  You know your people don't have such technology, and it's undoubtedly come from american or its allies.  You see civilians lying dead, women and children.  You never witnessed ISIS/ISIL/Al Qaeda cause devastation like that.

 

Who would you believe are the extremists?

 

i think thats a weak excuse to be honest... unless you truly believe that any people or nation would do such a thing unprovoked, you have to ask why that tomohawk is there to begin with.

At this point its retribution for shit that happened decades ago that most arent even alive to have know... i think the scorecard right now is up to about 79 at nest...  but the mentality of taking each action without considering what led to it is just weak minded self validation.

 

[fan_since79]

[arch stanton]

It's 1435 on their calendar so they're trying to work through their dark ages and inquisitions so they can have a Renaissance in the next century or two.

[fan_since79]

The biggest mystery is not that this guy took to beheading, since this is natural to these people, but why he was even employed there with the lengthy criminal record that he possessed.

[HaloMagic]

I live next to a Muslim family. I've never seen them behead anyone. Are we sure it's natural to them? Or is that just more bullshit you made up?

[TobiasFunke]

The biggest mystery is not that this guy took to beheading, since this is natural to these people, but why he was even employed there with the lengthy criminal record that he possessed.

Please go on record in saying you meant "these people" as terrorist extremists and not just Muslims.

[Hollyw00d]

i think thats a weak excuse to be honest... unless you truly believe that any people or nation would do such a thing unprovoked, you have to ask why that tomohawk is there to begin with.

At this point its retribution for shit that happened decades ago that most arent even alive to have know... i think the scorecard right now is up to about 79 at nest...  but the mentality of taking each action without considering what led to it is just weak minded self validation.

 

 

 

easy for you to say you don't live in a ****ing war zone.  it's awfully easy to judge from your lazy boy in nice comfy so cal, isn't it?

[Blarg]

Please go on record in saying you meant "these people" as terrorist extremists and not just Muslims.

I think he ment these people as in some black guy that converted from Baptist to Batshit Crazy.