Does Greinke miss the Angels/OC?

[KevinStockerIsGod]

Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million deal with the Dodgers in December 2012. Given the way he talks about those two months with the Angels, you wonder if he might consider signing there should he opt out of his contract after the 2015 season, which he may do depending on market conditions.

A native of Florida, Greinke said he enjoyed living in Orange County briefly.

“It’s got to be the best part of L.A., that area,” he said. “It’s really nice over there, at least for my personality type, I guess. The city over there is as great as it gets, the team was good, the stadium and fans were great too. That part of town is the No. 1 thing they have going for them. It’s easier to get to the beach.”

 

- From Mark Saxon's blog on ESPN: http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-report/post/_/id/11581/sneak-peek-at-a-freeway-series

 

[nando714]

All I know is that the catorce drives 73 mi a day to get to work

[laagamer]

While I wouldn't mind Greinke in the rotation, I think he left for a reason.

 

Whether it's that he didn't want to be here or we didn't want to pay him.

 

I don't see why that would change. 

[DMVol]

Whether it's that he didn't want to be here or we didn't want to pay him.

My bet would be on the latter....if the Fargo, ND Bisons had offered 147 million plus 1$, I think I know where he'd be....

[Chimi]

It's been said many times and even came out of Grienke's own mouth ... he was in it for the money and nothing else.  He clearly said he was going to sign with the team that offered him the most money, whether that be a winner or a loser.

[yk9001]

All I know is that the catorce drives 73 mi a day to get to work

 

 

Its not even Big Catorce any more. Just catorce.  I love it.

[Jeff M]

Does your girlfriend miss you? Rather, does the gal you were banging for a couple months, two years ago wish that she was still with you? The answer is no. You kept her well fed and the sex was great - she may even tell her this to her friends - but she has moved on to a more famous dude with deeper pockets.

[yk9001]

It's such bullshit that teams are the only ones bound by these 1 way "contracts". Players can cancel contracts at will without penalty. Imagine if a team decided that they no longer wanted future investment in a player and cancelled his contract and the remaining $200,000,000 owed...

 

All the owners have to do is renegotiate at the next CBA.  The player's union has been historically just too strong.

If the owners wanted, they could wait them out.  But they don't.

[Guest]

While I wouldn't mind Greinke in the rotation, I think he left for a reason.

 

[2002_halos_II]

I thought he said he prefers the NL? But yeah, money talks.

[Lou]

It's such bullshit that teams are the only ones bound by these 1 way "contracts". Players can cancel contracts at will without penalty. Imagine if a team decided that they no longer wanted future investment in a player and cancelled his contract and the remaining $200,000,000 owed...

huh? its not one-way. Some players have contracts that include team options.

Also, teams agree to these terms with the players. I blame them more than the players

[Lou]

Some players.

 

What team options are you referring to? The option to buy out the last year of a 8+ year contract?

example: the Angels hold a $7 million option on Huston Street for 2015

[LAAMike]

Any pictures or references to Ernesto Frieri must have the title "Goldschmidt Season Ender". 

[Season Over]

It's such bullshit that teams are the only ones bound by these 1 way "contracts". Players can cancel contracts at will without penalty. Imagine if a team decided that they no longer wanted future investment in a player and cancelled his contract and the remaining $200,000,000 owed...

 

The Dodgers didn't have to give him an opt-out clause.

[Stradling]

The owners could break the players union if they really wanted too. The owners are billionaires that don't rely on the profit of their team to survive. The players are millionaires that need to play baseball in order to make their incredible living. When was the last time you heard of an owner that after he sold his team he was bankrupt a few years later? Granted Mcbankrupt and the Mets guy come to mind, but they aren't really broke. However you hear of athletes all the time that are broke shortly after their careers end. If the owners wanted real change they could force it. I myself would love a system where we don't know what each player makes. It would make this place better and less bitter.

[Stradling]

Yes, a separate, 1-year deal the year following the end of the original multi-year contract with no options. Which the player would cancel anyway if picked up by the team and the market demands more than the option year provides.

Good deal.

I bet less than 5% of contracts have player opt out clauses.

[jshep]

Yes, a separate, 1-year deal the year following the end of the original multi-year contract with no options. Which the player would cancel anyway if picked up by the team and the market demands more than the option year provides. 

 

Good deal.

 

Huh?

 

There is no way Street or any other player could "cancel" a team option that their club picks up without retiring and sitting out that season.

 

The opt-out clause in Greinke's contract was specifically agreed upon by him/his agent and the Dodgers at the time the contract was signed with both parties aware of the situation. 

 

If teams don't like giving players opt-out clauses, it's simple: Don't give them to them. Hard for me to get worked up about that.

[Stradling]

What are the ramifications in place if a player decides he doesn't want that contract anymore? I doubt the MLBPA would allow that player to be banned from signing another contract until the original was set to expire.

He would have to retire and lose that money. I don't know for sure, but my guess is that person would be obligated to return to the team he left if he returned to baseball for whatever the duration of that contract is. I know for a fact that they have to sit out for at least a year.

[ABC]

The owners could break the players union if they really wanted too. The owners are billionaires that don't rely on the profit of their team to survive. The players are millionaires that need to play baseball in order to make their incredible living. When was the last time you heard of an owner that after he sold his team he was bankrupt a few years later? Granted Mcbankrupt and the Mets guy come to mind, but they aren't really broke. However you hear of athletes all the time that are broke shortly after their careers end. If the owners wanted real change they could force it. I myself would love a system where we don't know what each player makes. It would make this place better and less bitter.

 

McCourt walked away a billionaire. It was the biggest heist ever in sports. He bought the Dodgers with nothing and walked away beyond wealthy while still having interest in the parking lots. While this is a bit of hyperbole it isn't far off reality. Thank god, he was turned away from buying the Angels

[Stradling]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEsQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmlb.mlb.com%2Fpa%2Fpdf%2Fcba_english.pdf&ei=1xzgU9LRKaqoigLtmIGIDQ&usg=AFQjCNHIFaJNQDAQ3fUEqPFwmCZuvyUsjQ&bvm=bv.72389368,d.cGE

I'm not reading this, but the answer is probably in here Vladdy.

[yk9001]

The owners could break the players union if they really wanted too. The owners are billionaires that don't rely on the profit of their team to survive. The players are millionaires that need to play baseball in order to make their incredible living. When was the last time you heard of an owner that after he sold his team he was bankrupt a few years later? Granted Mcbankrupt and the Mets guy come to mind, but they aren't really broke. However you hear of athletes all the time that are broke shortly after their careers end. If the owners wanted real change they could force it. I myself would love a system where we don't know what each player makes. It would make this place better and less bitter.

 

 

What on earth??

 

After the Dodgers sale, McCourt shits 100 dollar bills, and wipes his ass with 1,000 dollar bills.

Edited August 4, 2014 by yk9001

[Taylor]

All I know is that the catorce drives 73 mi a day to get to work

 

Maybe he and Zack could carpool.

[jshep]

Maybe he and Zack could carpool.

 

And also get their own Odd Couple style sitcom.

[Stradling]

What on earth??

After the Dodgers sale, McCourt shits 100 dollar bills, and wipes his ass with 1,000 dollar bills.

I more meant the fact that he was considered bankrupt, when he owned the team.

[The God of Runs]

Greinke will be sorry he left the Halos at around 10pm tonight