Tanaka, Garza, or Bust

[ten ocho recon scout]

Don't rule out Price.

agreed. Not that I think it will be price, but something tells me there's still a possibility that one of skaggs/santiago/richards may have become the youbg arm to go along with (fill in the blank) to trade for a veteran but expensive pitcher.

Weav/cj/garza (for argument)/richards/santiago vs weav/cj/price (for argument)/santiago/skaggs

You have to consider what garza is set to make vs a guy like price/c lee etc makes in terms of what makes the most sense.

Sure, holding on to arm depth makes the most long term sense. But we are in win now mode at the sams time.

And personally, I would prefer a trade to eat the money on a cliff lee type over a garza type, but that's just me

[Scott34]

I'm convinced that Tanaka was, is, and will be the #1 target this off-season.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I'm convinced that Tanaka was, is, and will be the #1 target this off-season.

same. The posting thing is killing it.

[Brent Maguire]

Tanaka makes wayyyy too much sense for the Angels. If this posting thing figures itself out, I'd imagine the Angels are one of the top 3 teams in on the bidding. 

[Ohtaniland]

I'm convinced that Tanaka was, is, and will be the #1 target this off-season.

Would love to see Tanaka signed but I really doubt that Arte is going to go high enough to get him. Additionaly I don't think that they want to deal with all of the Japanese media that will be part of the package.

[Scott34]

Would love to see Tanaka signed but I really doubt that Arte is going to go high enough to get him. Additionaly I don't think that they want to deal with all of the Japanese media that will be part of the package.

 

The Japanese media is a plus not a minus...

 

Bid the 20M and offer the dude 6/110.

[Stradling]

Tanaka himself would solve a lot of the attendance issues.

[southpaw]

I honestly think Tanaka is the #1 option and Arte WILL go over the $189 Million luxury tax threshold to get him. The hit for the team would only be this year due to contracts coming off the books next year. 

[jshep]

Is the average fan really going to come out to the game just because some Japanese pitcher they probably only know from what ESPN or MLB Network has said about him over the past couple months is pitching?

 

I mean I want him, and I would be excited if we got him, but I don't know that he would be a significant draw for those fans who are less obsessed with the minutia of baseball than like the ones here.

[Stradling]

I am telling you that when he pitches the Japanese baseball fans will be there. Ever been to a game against Seattle when Ichiro was there? Or when Matsui was here? They will show up.

[southpaw]

oh and I want to go on record that I don't want Garza....  too much money for mediocrity.   If they can't get Tanaka I would hope they stand pat and see how the youngsters shake out. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Tanaka himself would solve a lot of the attendance issues.

racist

(Still trying to catch you with the ibanez one)

(And yes I'm aware that its china that's overpopulated, not japan. To a point)

Edited December 14, 2013 by ten ocho recon scout

[Jay]

Ervin has skills

[Docwaukee]

they should consider Tanaka regardless of who else they have.  Even if they've signed Garza, they should still try to sign Tanaka.  Worst case scenario is that they have to trade Aybar or Kendrick or both because of salary considerations.  They could actually get additional pitching prospects and perhaps 2b, and/or SS prospects to replace them.  It could very well set the franchise up for the next 5 years to lock up a #1/#2 and have Garza, Skaggs, Richards, and Santiago as potential additional components in addition to whatever near ready pitchers they could get.  For 2014, you could have a rotation of Weaver, Wilson, Tanaka, Garza and Richards.  With Skaggs and Santiago as backups.  If things don't go well, they could trade Wilson. 

[Tyler]

With Infante signing with the Royals, Aybar may be our best trade chip now. The only teams that could use Kendrick are the Blue Jays, Nationals, and Yanks. Great match with the Nationals, but not till after the '14 season. Aybar, he'd be a good fit on the Mets and Pirates.

 

Unfortunately, I don't see them moving Aybar or Kendrick, so kiss the thought of Tanaka goodbye.

 

To be honest, I'd rather have a 1 year, 2 year guy over Garza. Use the financial flexibility for a trade deadline pickup or the following offseason.

[Stradling]

racist

(Still trying to catch you with the ibanez one)

(And yes I'm aware that its china that's overpopulated, not japan. To a point)

I think they are both overpopulated

[Tyler]

I'm on 'sign one of the following SP's bandwagon':

 

Capuano, Hammel, or Maholm. In that order.

[SoWhat]

I really think Garza ends up the Angels. The Twins, D-backs, and Angels were his top 3 suitors. Twins just re-signed Pelfrey and Dbacks won't go above 3 years for any starter. Unless some mystery team comes out of the woodwork, Garza will be an Angel.

Edited December 15, 2013 by SoWhat

[Docwaukee]

I really think Garza ends up the Angels. The Twins, D-backs, and Angels were his top 3 suitors. Twins just re-signed Pelfrey and Dbacks won't go above 3 years for any starter. Unless some mystery team comes out of the woodwork, Garza will be an Angel.

I'd like to hope that was true, but 4yrs for Garza will bring some other teams to the table.  Namely the Yankees. 

 

At the beginning of the offseason, I thought Garza was going to get 5/90.  If we can get him at 4/60 that would be a solid deal for a #3/4.  Maybe a team option for a 5th year. 

 

My main reason for wanting to steer clear of him was the fact that I figured he'd get overpaid considerably as probably the best FA pitcher available. 

 

Still think he's kind of a tool though. 

[YouthofToday]

Don't rule out Price.

I will. He's not realistic unless Trout is involved.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I think they are both overpopulated

so then mine still works?

Yes! (Pumps fist gibson style)

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Don't rule out Price.

My inside sources tell me there's less than 1% chance the Angels will trade for Price.

[Docwaukee]

I think there is a better chance they sign both Garza and Tanaka than trading for price. 

[rick99gtp]

Twins are out on Garza now and believe the Angels will sign him to a 3-4 year deal.  I hope it happens.

[Scott34]

I still wouldn't be too happy about it, but I could probably support a 3 year deal.