In 2014 who will prove more valuable

[Stradling]

to their team? Bourjos or Calhoun? I am assuming that Peter if he stays healthy will provide a higher WAR because he is a center fielder, but who will have the, I don't know how to say it, but I guess it would be WAR per salary? Will we regret moving Peter, not because of what we got in return, but because of who is going to replace him in the starting line up? I see it like this. Calhoun won't be as bad defensively this coming year, nor will Trout. We all know what Peter brings to the table defensively, he is amazing. But I just like the idea of having Calhoun batting in the top of the line up, either first or second, and that is something I wasn't comfortable saying about Peter. Let me know what you guys think.

[mtangelsfan]

That is completely subjective.

 

At this point it doesn't matter.  Burjous isn't on the team anymore.  Lets go Freese!

[Stradling]

I know it's subjective. I made it to hear others opinions.

[Blarg]

I am not convinced Calhoun will start.

[Docwaukee]

I feel like it was going to be Bourjos or Trumbo and that Calhoun was going to be on the team regardless. 

[NrM]

Bourjos and Calhoun potentially offer completely different things.

 

Calhoun is probably not as good as he showed in his first few months with the angels. His value will probably never be higher.

With that being said, I could see him having a .770-.780 OPS with average defense. I'll gladly take that, although I would much prefer a healthy bourjos.

Edited December 7, 2013 by Poozy

[Docwaukee]

So, to me, the question is whether Freese, Trumbo and what ever SP they get are more valuable than Bourjos, Jimenez/Green, and the SP that Trumbo would have gotten.  

[jshep]

I am not convinced Calhoun will start.

 

True, Shuck's grit is off the charts.

[m0nkey]

Bourjos will provide more value with the glove.  It all depends on calhoun's offense can outproduce bourjos with the bat to make up for it.  

 

Expert analysis right there

[Docwaukee]

I would love to gain access to the more advanced defensive metrics that the teams can get. 

[Count Orlok]

Depends if Bourjos can stay on the field for more than 100 games.

[Make Angels Great Again]

I see Calhoun putting up something like .290/.360/.470 this season with 20ish home runs and 80ish RBI. Maybe 15 stolen bases for good measure.

He's going to be very solid.

[ELEVEN]

True, Shuck's grit is off the charts.

Gruck's what?

[greginpsca]

If Pujols and Hamilton have years somewhat close to career averages, then Trout can bat leadoff again, where he is more valuable. Calhoun, i believe, will be a good # 2 hitter. Seems like we haven't had a good 2 hitter in years.  With Trumbo, Freese, Conger and Aybar following Hamilton will give us a pretty solid lineup. I really believe Howie will be traded for a pitcher, but i have a gut feeling Green won't be playing 2b. I have a feeling Lindsey will end up at 2b.

[tdawg87]

I like Calhoun a lot and think he has potential to be a Brett Gardner type of player, perhaps with more power.

[Stradling]

I like Calhoun a lot and think he has potential to be a Brett Gardner type of player, perhaps with more power.

Very good comparison. Except more power less speed. I don't know anything about Gardener's arm strength.

[markb]

I am not convinced Calhoun will start.

 

Granted the final decision is up to Scioscia, but Dipoto implied in his interview a couple weeks ago that Calhoun would likely be the starting RF.

[Bruce Nye]

As to the OP - Calhoun vs. Bourjos.  The key question for Bourjos is health.  The HBP incident can happen to anyone, but I recall him having hamstring issues and being out.  If he can avoid that, he should enjoy national league pitching - more fast balls and he is a huge upgrade for STL over JJ in cf.

 

I like Calhoun playing full time and envision Shuck being a bench player (assuming Trumbo is traded).  Calhoun can hit and hit for power, so I favor him over Peter.

[Stradling]

I will make this guarantee if Mike has Shuck start a majority of games over Calhoun I will be on the Fire Scioscia bandwagon.

[m0nkey]

And some will blame dipoto for giving him the option of shuck

[Docwaukee]

I will make this guarantee if Mike has Shuck start a majority of games over Calhoun I will be on the Fire Scioscia bandwagon.

yah.  I'm there with you.  Calhoun needs to get the everyday job even against lefties. 

 

Honestly, someone is gonna need to be available to spell Hamilton vs. lefties and in the late innings so as much as I think Shuck is a good 5th Ofer, he doesn't really fit that role as well as I'd like.

 

options to fill the 4th OFer role?

Franklin Gutierrez

Andres Torres

Rajai Davis

 

Still would love to get Hart.  I think he might take a 1yr deal to prove he's healthy and he would actually be even better than trumbo.  He's kind of like the version of Trumbo that we hope Trumbo could be. 

[mancini79]

I would say Bourjos will be more valuable to the Cards than Calhoun will be to the Angels. The Cards lost Beltran and Petey is guaranteed a spot.

[eaterfan]

Bourjos will be more valuable. The cardinals will make the playoffs and the angels won't. That is what defines a player's value, right?

[Stradling]

According to the BBWA yes.

[Inside Pitch]

to their team? Bourjos or Calhoun? I am assuming that Peter if he stays healthy will provide a higher WAR because he is a center fielder, but who will have the, I don't know how to say it, but I guess it would be WAR per salary? Will we regret moving Peter, not because of what we got in return, but because of who is going to replace him in the starting line up? I see it like this. Calhoun won't be as bad defensively this coming year, nor will Trout. We all know what Peter brings to the table defensively, he is amazing. But I just like the idea of having Calhoun batting in the top of the line up, either first or second, and that is something I wasn't comfortable saying about Peter. Let me know what you guys think.

 

 

Miguel Cabrera.