Dodgers Offered Kershaw $300M

[Troll Daddy]

how you haven't been banned after all these years of trolling is amazing to me.

Why don't you back off ... If you don't have a take then STFU

[Stradling]

Poozy, you and I should be banned way before Troll. He may be a troll but he is more respectful than either of us.

[Sully151]

I think the dodgers are headed for a collapse.

Since the were expected by many to at least go to if not win the World Series, didn't they already kind if collapse?

[mancini79]

Kershaw said he was going to focus on baseball during the season and contract negotiations in the off season. The Dodgers have only been out of the playoffs for 1 day. If this offer is accurate, he will sign it soon. But the Dodgers knew Kershaw wasn't going to consider any contracts during the season so I'm not sure how accurate this report is.

[Stradling]

It's not about being respectful. He's here for one purpose. It's to troll.

The guy has Angel season tickets, I'm guessing he's a little more than just a troll.

[mancini79]

The guy has Angel season tickets, I'm guessing he's a little more than just a troll.

 

But he has season tickets to over 20 clubs.

[NrM]

The guy has Angel season tickets, I'm guessing he's a little more than just a troll.

w/e.. I'm not going to get into it. I usually just stay away from his posts. 

Most here believe he's a troll. I guess a few don't. oh well..

Edited October 20, 2013 by Poozy

[YouthofToday]

I'm not so sure WAR will dictate his salary. He's going to have to produce more offensively to get that type of money. Which I think he's capable of doing.

35+ HR's. 130+ RBI's while batting third in the lineup.

Time will tell if baseball GMs agree with you. I think Ruben Amaro is the only one.

[Stradling]

I don't disagree that he trolls. But I believe he is a fan that doesn't have that fanatical connection that some of us have. His trolling is respectful and harmless if that makes sense.

[YouthofToday]

Although I disagree with Troll Daddy on the relevance of certain stats I absolutely respect his love of the game of baseball. Few here like baseball more than he.

[Troll Daddy]

w/e.. I'm not going to get into it. I usually just stay away from his posts.

Most here believe he's a troll. I guess a few don't. oh well..

You're wise to stay away from my postings.

Didn't realize giving Trout some love is considered trolling. Seems like your agenda around here is to create drama. Life is short ... enjoy.

eace

[Brent Maguire]

I don't disagree that he trolls. But I believe he is a fan that doesn't have that fanatical connection that some of us have. His trolling is respectful and harmless if that makes sense.

Pretty much. 

[gotbeer]

He is from Texas.  

[notherhalo]

Name one current starting pitch who has been very good or better for 10 straight seasons.

 

I can't think of any. King Felix has had 6 straight seasons with a sub-3.50 ERA. Cliff Lee has come close, but he's had a few injury-riddled seasons along the way.

 

Excellent question:

 

Roy Halladay?  - http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hallaro01.shtml

 

Johan was pretty good for about 6-7 years before the injury

[Splint7438]

Since the were expected by many to at least go to if not win the World Series, didn't they already kind if collapse?

This team lost to the better team. Not sure this was a collapse necessarily. Not sure who was picking them to go to WS before the season but I felt they could go deep in the playoffs because of Kershaw, Greinke and Ryu. The playoffs can be a crapshoot. Not sure the Dodgers were better the the braves until they had to roll out Freddie Garcia to pitch the deciding game.

The collapse I am talking about is when Crawford is hurt.....again. Hanley reverts to his half ass effort that he has shown throughout his whole career. I am afraid he will take Puig with him. I also noticd during game six that Kershaw was walking to back up third while the second run was scoring and walked while backing up home on Puigs throw when 4th run was scoring. CK was about three feet behind the catcher when Th ball went over everyone's head. I have never noticed any lack of effort on his part before. But cK definitely didn't have his head in the game. Poor play can snowball and cause an entire season to be lost.

[JAHV76]

If Kershaw doesn't sign a long term deal in the offseason he better hope he doesn't have a serious injury in spring training.

[Blarg]

This team lost to the better team. Not sure this was a collapse necessarily. Not sure who was picking them to go to WS before the season but I felt they could go deep in the playoffs because of Kershaw, Greinke and Ryu. The playoffs can be a crapshoot. Not sure the Dodgers were better the the braves until they had to roll out Freddie Garcia to pitch the deciding game.

 

 

Odds to win the 2013 World Series, posted at the LVH SuperBook as of opening day.

 

ODDS TO WIN 2013 WORLD SERIES

TIGERS 6-1

ANGELS 7-1

NATIONALS 7-1

DODGERS 8-1

REDS 9-1

GIANTS 12-1

BLUE JAYS 12-1

BRAVES 14-1

CARDINALS 16-1

RANGERS 20-1

RAYS 20-1

ORIOLES 20-1

YANKEES 25-1

PHILLIES 25-1

A'S 25-1

RED SOX 30-1

WHITE SOX 40-1

DIAMONDBACKS 40-1

ROYALS 50-1

BREWERS 60-1

PIRATES 60-1

MARINERS 60-1

INDIANS 60-1

CUBS 70-1

METS 100-1

PADRES 100-1

TWINS 100-1

ROCKIES 100-1

MARLINS 300-1

ASTROS 400-1

[eaterfan]

Why do all the good seasons have to be in a row? It's better but I'll take a guy who has 8 good years in 9 seasons than a guy who has 6 good seasons in a row and 3 bad ones. 

 

Nolan Ryan never strung together 6 years in a row of ERA+ over one hundred. He did have one 6 year streak of ERAs sub 3.5, though.

[eaterfan]

$300M for a player that plays 7 innings every 5th day is outrageous.

 

Exactly, no pitcher should get more than 10 million.

[Troll Daddy]

I'm remembering the days were salaries for players were rarely discussed. Money has changed the dynamics of the game for better or for worst.

I remember when Kirby Puckett became the first $3M a year player.

[Brent Maguire]

Exactly, no pitcher should get more than 10 million.

Why? Kershaw is one of the best pitchers in the last 50 years. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Why? Kershaw is one of the best pitchers in the last 50 years. 

 

He was basically a .500 pitcher with an unremarkable ERA until 2011. I want to see more than three years of top level production before I anoint him one of the all time greats.

[Brent Maguire]

He was basically a .500 pitcher with an unremarkable ERA until 2011. I want to see more than three years of top level production before I anoint him one of the all time greats

 

First of all, citing his W-L record is silly. Second, he had a 2.79 ERA in 2009 and 2.91 ERA in 2010. That's unremarkable?

 

He's averaged between 4.1-6.6 WAR every year since 2009. He also has a top 10 ERA+ of all time up to this point. He's been elite for about 5 years now. 

[eaterfan]

Why? Kershaw is one of the best pitchers in the last 50 years. 

 

As has been stated even the best pitchers pitch only every 5th day and only 7 innings at that. Not worth more than $10 million.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

First of all, citing his W-L record is silly.

 

Wins are a false stat. My bad. Sorry.