If Trout is out for the year, I'm trading Ohtani

[Adam]

6 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Trading Ohtani sends the wrong message to the team. 

Time for Rendon to start hitting like a MFer.

Time for Adell to seize this opportunity. 

Things just got interesting for me.

Messages are dumb they need to burn it down and start over 

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

I'd put T.G on ignore, but he put me on ignore long time ago. That is reason for halo bad luck.

There used to be a time when you were rude like that here you got a warning or something.   Im not familiar with this person. 

[Adam]

12 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Speaking of lessons... you'd think you'd know how to spell Arte by now.

Fuck you

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

Messages are dumb they need to burn it down and start over 

Seriously.   

[Angels 1961]

Trading Ohtani will come down to where halos are in 25 days.

[Dtwncbad]

Forever it was complaining that Trout had to do it himself.

Now the Angels have a player better than Trout, and the answer is punt on the season if they have to go without Trout for a bit?

So stupid.

How about open up a possible narrative where the rest of the roster evolves and comes together?

That’s what has to happen anyway to get to a World Series.  So let it play out.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

Forever it was complaining that Trout had to do it himself.

Now the Angels have a player better than Trout, and the answer is punt on the season if they have to go without Trout for a bit?

So stupid.

How about open up a possible narrative where the rest of the roster evolves and comes together?

That’s what has to happen anyway to get to a World Series.  So let it play out.

But you can’t have that narrative and be a victim at the same time. Not that I think the OP plays the victim card but so many on here do. You know, curses and such. 

[Farmbuildingfan]

The Angels will not likely be in the playoffs during my lifetime regardless of who is on the roster. Annual key injuries will knock them down whenever they threaten as a contender.

Therefore, I want to enjoy the best player in the game on my team. It is the next best thing to the playoffs.

[Dtwncbad]

Moreno certainly deserves some criticism for plenty of things.  But there is also this lingering emotional baggage that drives people to believe that nothing good is ever going to happen to this team until he is gone.

So when Trout hurts his wrist, the default if to almost root for Moreno to trade the best player in the game to further cement him as an idiot failure.

It’s dumb. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Dtwncbad

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

Moreno certainly deserves some criticism for plenty of things.  But there is also this lingering emotional baggage that drives people to believe that nothing good is ever going to happen to this team until he is gone.

So when Trout hurts his wrist, the default if to almost root for Moreno to trade the best player in the game to further cement him as an idiot failure.weird on the front six dollars yeah because I have a card

It’s dumb. 

It’s dumb and it’s lazy.
Trout hurts his wrist:

“fuck Arte, sell the team”

[T.G.]

18 minutes ago, Adam said:

Messages are dumb they need to burn it down and start over 

Not knowing how to spell the owner's name is dumb.

[Dtwncbad]

I think the team has enough talent to survive Trout being out for a bit.  Frankly, I would be more motivated now to pursue an impact player to acquire.  Then, when it matters most, the return of Trout is a huge boost to an improved team.

Go to war fellas!  Let’s go!

[T.G.]

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

I think the team has enough talent to survive Trout being out for a bit.  Frankly, I would be more motivated now to pursue an impact player to acquire.  Then, when it matters most, the return of Trout is a huge boost to an improved team.

Go to war fellas!  Let’s go!

Exactly. Let's go Perry!

[Taylor]

This team is unwatchable without Trout and Ohtani.

[stormngt]

6 hours ago, Stradling said:

Ok. So you can get two mediocre packages for him. Also you are still trading him to one team who has to have prospect capital. 

I am not supporting the idea of trading him.  I just think he would bring back more than skeptics think because he is an impact player as pitcher and as a hitter.

However trading him while he is on pace to tie the AL HR record and the greatest season performance in history is not going to happen.

Edited July 4, 2023 by stormngt

[Blarg]

49 minutes ago, Adam said:

Messages are dumb they need to burn it down and start over 

Trout out 6-8 weeks.

[Dtwncbad]

Good thing they gave Trout lots of regular days off to minimize his risk of injury.

Just curious what their record was in games he was rested.

[Taylor]

2 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Good thing they gave Trout lots of regular days off to minimize his risk of injury.

Just curious what their record was in games he was rested.

Same with Rendon. He plays like 3 days a week and still gets injured once a month.

[Dtwncbad]

The Angels just lost a guy hitting .263 with 18 homers for 6-8 weeks.

Tons of time before the trade deadline to hunt for a deal to help the team.

The sky is falling. 

 

 

[Angel Oracle]

I don’t think more rentals is the way to go.

Now, if a solid player with at least 2 years control after this season is available, definitely pursue him.

Work to do the best you can for this season AND going forward, which means the above plus determining which of the young relievers will best fit in the late innings going forward, and seeing if Adell can finally get the job done up here.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, Angels 1961 said:

Not a fire sale but Ohtani, Renfroe, Moore, Devenski, Escobar, Moose, Loup, Anderson. Many good young players to build from, Neto, O'Hoppe, Moniak, Adell, Detmers, Canning, Joyce, Bachman, Thaiss.

That kind of seems like a "fire sale."

[stormngt]

27 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Good thing they gave Trout lots of regular days off to minimize his risk of injury.

Just curious what their record was in games he was rested.

6-2 i believe

[Jason]

2 hours ago, WicketMaiden said:

Is the sky falling in too?

Even if it's a broken bone, Trout will be swinging a bat again in the middle of August. A week of that absence will be for the All-star game; Moniak will cover half of Trout's missed games and he's doing pretty well; and Trout wasn't really himself this year at the plate: so how much of a loss is it really? One game lost? Two, three? Then add to that there is a fair chance that Trout comes back raking after his break and is fresh and revitalised at the plate.

And some of you want to trade the best bloody baseball player that has ever played the game? While he is having a career season? Performing at a level that has never been seen before?

Numpties.

What is a hamate bone fracture? Explaining Mike Trout's injury and potential recovery time for Angels star (msn.com)

He won't be swinging mid August. He's done for the year. 

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Recovery from a simple hamate bone fracture takes about six-to-eight weeks, according to Medical News Today. From there, a restrengthening process in the form of physical therapy can add another few weeks to the timeline.

As we all know, there are no simple injuries with this team. 

[Dtwncbad]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

That kind of seems like a "fire sale."

Some people think the only way to build a talented roster is to have fire sales.

[khouse]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

Moreno certainly deserves some criticism for plenty of things.  But there is also this lingering emotional baggage that drives people to believe that nothing good is ever going to happen to this team until he is gone.

So when Trout hurts his wrist, the default if to almost root for Moreno to trade the best player in the game to further cement him as an idiot failure.

It’s dumb. 

Not certain some don't already view him this way, Given how many blame him for the team's mediocrity for so many years only to hear him cite his "passion" as a reason not to sell the team. Which, I guess, explains his treatment of the Angels minor league players as well? Then, now, to make matters worse, his narrative will be challenged even more if he lets Ohtani walk away without any compensation. So...yeah...sad to say, many, already, view him this way & given the "damned if he does/doesn't" with Ohtani...it's, likely, a label that will endure...