Jacob deGrom signs with the Rangers (5 years, $185 million)

[Angelsjunky]

Well, the upside for the Rangers is that DeGrom doesn't have a ton of wear and tear on his arm: He's got about 1700 professional innings (majors and minors) through age 34, which isn't much. Kershaw is the same age and has almost twice as many with about 2800.

That said, that's a ton of dough for a 35-year old who has managed only 220 innings over the last three seasons. But he's still an incredible pitcher, so if they can get 150+ IP from him for most of those years, I suppose it will be worth it.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I feel happy for Stamm

[Lou]

Just now, ten ocho recon scout said:

I feel happy for Stamm

He was the best.

[Tank]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

I feel happy for Stamm

Maybe he’ll make a new video for us to watch. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Just now, Tank said:

Maybe he’ll make a new video for us to watch. 

I'm seriously hoping someone on here can find that old magic.

[AngelsMetsWS]

1 hour ago, Warfarin said:

IF he stays healthy, then the Rangers actually have a great deal for themselves.  But what are the odds that 35 year old Jacob deGrom will have 5 relatively healthy years moving forward?  When you throw as hard as he does, it just seems highly likely he'll spend a significant amount of this deal injured.  The Rangers are definitely a better team now than they were a day ago, but it also depends on how much they are willing to spend.  If they don't intend to spend that much more, I don't know - seems like they're going to fall short, and will soon have multiple expensive contracts for players that can't stay healthy.

I agree, I doubt he stays healthy.  And getting shelled his last few starts this year gives me a queasy feeling, most of his injuries were preceded by a few off starts. 
 

note my moniker, me and most of my Mets fan buddies aren’t too upset with him leaving at that number.  

[AngelsMetsWS]

I was doing a thought experiment: if the Angels signed degrom to the exact same contract, would I be happy or sad?
 

id be thinking “holy smokes, this is going to blow up in our faces!!”

[Blarg]

Or he could pitch like Verlander did at the same age. If he does then it makes beating the Rangers extremely difficult. 

I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying he is not a welcome addition to the AL West competition and I had sort of hoped the Angels could have acquired him instead. 

[Docwaukee]

They went huge on a deal that could be a home run or an absolute disaster.  

I doubt they're done to be honest.  Seems like they could go big for another OFer and I wouldn't be surprised if they trade for a starter.   Or vice versa.  They actually have deGrom at 30m this year which makes me think they're trying to leave room for some more payroll.   Thinking they might go after Nimmo.  

[Second Base]

Jacob DeGrom is the best pitcher in baseball by a wide margin..... When he's on the mound. If he's healthy, he's the best. And there's no in between with DeGrom. He won't be healthy and not dominate, that's not who he is, at any age. 

And he's only gotten better with age. It's a good signing for the Rangers, if he stays healthy. 

[gurn67]

I think the odds of him throwing less than 300 innings during the duration of that contract is much higher than the odds of him throwing more than 600 innings.

[aznhockeyguy]

Boy that escalated quickly.  Can't fault DeGrom for taking that contract.

[Docwaukee]

the A's might lose 200 games next year.  

[HanfordGuy]

6 hours ago, rafibomb said:

Shit that’s a huge commitment. If the Angels signed him to this deal he’d be broken by the 2nd year.

 

6 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

Shit that’s a huge commitment. If the Angels signed him to this deal he’d be broken by the 2nd year week of spring training. 

If the Angels signed him, DeGrom would have torn thumb ligaments from the pen he used to sign the contract.

[tdawg87]

5 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

the A's might lose 200 games next year.  

And still beat the Angels 8 times.

[Warfarin]

8 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Well, the upside for the Rangers is that DeGrom doesn't have a ton of wear and tear on his arm: He's got about 1700 professional innings (majors and minors) through age 34, which isn't much. Kershaw is the same age and has almost twice as many with about 2800.

That said, that's a ton of dough for a 35-year old who has managed only 220 innings over the last three seasons. But he's still an incredible pitcher, so if they can get 150+ IP from him for most of those years, I suppose it will be worth it.

Yes - this is true and an underrated point.  While we can easily point to deGrom's health history and assume it is more of the same moving forward, it's possible that by him being hurt and missing tons of games, he has less wear and tear and may stay healthier moving forward.

All that said, I think he throws SO hard that, probably, that in of itself portends more injuries in the future.  

[RallyMo]

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[Lou]

I miss RallyMo.

[Angels 1961]

13 hours ago, Warfarin said:

A plan, of course, can be bad.  It’s cool that they’re spending but it’s possible they’ll have a bunch of overpaid, injured players too.

I agree Seager and Seimen deals are not good. They will turn out bad. 

[Angels 1961]

Angels will need a healthy Rendon to beat DeGrom

[VladdyforHOF]

Astros are going to be the Astros again.

M's are young and scary.

Jacob DeGrom is now in the AL West.

Fuck.

Time for the Angels to counter this. We NEED to sign a SS.

 

[wopphil]

20 minutes ago, VladdyforHOF said:

Astros are going to be the Astros again.

M's are young and scary.

Jacob DeGrom is now in the AL West.

Fuck.

Time for the Angels to counter this. We NEED to sign a SS.

 

This is a good point. You can’t just look at what the Angels have done to improve, you have to look at what other teams have done as well. Because ultimately, they have to beat those other teams. Angels need more talent to compete - a shortstop, and preferably an ace. Going to be hard to get one of those, let alone both. 

[BTH]

Just now, wopphil said:

This is a good point. You can’t just look at what the Angels have done to improve, you have to look at what other teams have done as well. Because ultimately, they have to beat those other teams. Angels need more talent to compete - a shortstop, and preferably an ace. Going to be hard to get one of those, let alone both. 

They have an ace.

Their biggest need is bullpen.

[Stradling]

The Angels are still better than Texas. They still have a better rotation than Texas. 

[Warfarin]

38 minutes ago, wopphil said:

This is a good point. You can’t just look at what the Angels have done to improve, you have to look at what other teams have done as well. Because ultimately, they have to beat those other teams. Angels need more talent to compete - a shortstop, and preferably an ace. Going to be hard to get one of those, let alone both. 

One thing to consider is that while we still face our divisional rivals more than other teams, the schedule is less tilted towards that moving forward.  Instead of the 18-19 games against each divisional team, it's now 14.  So, around 20 games or so less against our division.