Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[totdprods]

12 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

In all likelihood, it would decrease the sale price, not increase it, since a major long-term contract is an ongoing financial liability. 

That’s why I don’t think they’ll get anyone major. One-year deals or reasonable multi-years like Anderson could boost the team’s chances of winning though - that might up some value depending when the sale starts proceeding. 

[Angels 1961]

49 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

We need an offensive minded SS, if he can play defense, fine.  If Arte wants to open the wallet for Correa, OK.  

As a fan, I would prefer Turner, because of his on-base skills, or Swanson, who has a nice all around game.  

Turner would look nice at the top of the order, Swanson would fit very well at 6 or even 7, depending on how Rendon and Walsh look when they return. 

I think halos have one in Rengifo

[Angelsfan1984]

5 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I think halos have one in Rengifo

Rengifo will need to play 3rd when rendoesnt tears his vaginal lining again.

[Angels 1961]

6 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Rengifo will need to play 3rd when rendoesnt tears his vaginal lining again.

Will sign Andrus 1 year deal give Neto, Soto more time in minors.

[Angels 1961]

33 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Rengifo will need to play 3rd when rendoesnt tears his vaginal lining again.

Another player halos could get cheap on one year deal is Josh Harrison

[mmc]

 

[Angels 1961]

22 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Benitendi and drury?

Hanniger and Josh Harrison

[Docwaukee]

Arte gets credit for generating more revenue.   He gets dinged for having more liability.  

tv contracts, attendance etc generate revenue.  a lot is tied to winning but you've got to show that you're generating revenue.  Not have it be theoretical because of a player or two.  

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 11/16/2022 at 7:50 AM, EdmontonAngelsFan said:

Jesse Winkler may be part of the deal...

Fonzie?

[AngelStew43]

43 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I think halos have one in Rengifo

Rengifo can easily play 2B, Fletcher returns to the same role he had when he came up, a little 3B, a little 2B, a little SS, some LF.  A good utility player can easily carve out 300-400 ab's. 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 11/10/2022 at 11:22 AM, halonatic13 said:

I'd be ALL OVER Taijuan. 

China wants Taiwan also.

[AngelStew43]

Off topic, but how would the group feel about AJ Pollock as a low-risk, high reward, OF?

Had a good thing going with the boys in blue, not very good while in Chitown.  With the lack of shifts, he may bounce back, and his big money days are certainly gone.  Maybe 1 yr, 2 mil?

[totdprods]

6 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

Off topic, but how would the group feel about AJ Pollock as a low-risk, high reward, OF?

Had a good thing going with the boys in blue, not very good while in Chitown.  With the lack of shifts, he may bounce back, and his big money days are certainly gone.  Maybe 1 yr, 2 mil?

Haniger, Conforto, Pollock, potentially even Bellinger, Gallo, Mancini, perhaps even Benintendi…all of these guys could be hunting for a 1-yr rebound deal to re-enter the market with better shot at a long-term deal. I hope we get at least one. Sort of like the Syndergaard deal in theory.

[BTH]

7 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

Off topic, but how would the group feel about AJ Pollock as a low-risk, high reward, OF?

Had a good thing going with the boys in blue, not very good while in Chitown.  With the lack of shifts, he may bounce back, and his big money days are certainly gone.  Maybe 1 yr, 2 mil?

He declined a $13M player option in favor of a $5M buyout, so he’s getting more than 2 million.

But I do think he’s one of the better outfielders available in free agency and would have interest in him.

[HanfordGuy]

 

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[Angels 1961]

3 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

Off topic, but how would the group feel about AJ Pollock as a low-risk, high reward, OF?

Had a good thing going with the boys in blue, not very good while in Chitown.  With the lack of shifts, he may bounce back, and his big money days are certainly gone.  Maybe 1 yr, 2 mil?

He turned down like 10 mill

[DMVol]

13 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

No Correa for them…may also explain letting Gio go…shoring up INF…

[Hubs]

6 hours ago, totdprods said:

That’s why I don’t think they’ll get anyone major. One-year deals or reasonable multi-years like Anderson could boost the team’s chances of winning though - that might up some value depending when the sale starts proceeding. 

I've been saying this but the long term "liability" of a contract is while they'll stay away from the big expensive free agents but not a burden to sign Ohtani, who is a top two or three player in the game, and it would not affect shorter term payroll investments. The new owner would hopefully prioritize winning, and someone like Theo Epstein or Dombrowski will hopefully be aboard to run the show. 

No one who buys the team this season for 2.5-3 billion is going to care about payroll being reduced or increased by 40 M. Arte has run a profitable team and he bought the team for less than 200 million.

The long term liability vs. asset vs. profit is not really a big deal in a sports team sale. Any buyer is not gonna be concerned with a new Long term contract unless it's a crazy overpay. Or a dumb move.

 So no Aaron Judge or long term deal for DeGrom. Turner etc, not likely but not out of the question. Ninmo, Senga, etc, more likely.

[totdprods]

3 minutes ago, Hubs said:

I've been saying this but the long term "liability" of a contract is while they'll stay away from the big expensive free agents but not a burden to sign Ohtani, who is a top two or three player in the game, and it would not affect shorter term payroll investments. The new owner would hopefully prioritize winning, and someone like Theo Epstein or Dombrowski will hopefully be aboard to run the show. 

No one who buys the team this season for 2.5-3 billion is going to care about payroll being reduced or increased by 40 M. Arte has run a profitable team and he bought the team for less than 200 million.

The long term liability vs. asset vs. profit is not really a big deal in a sports team sale. Any buyer is not gonna be concerned with a new Long term contract unless it's a crazy overpay. Or a dumb move.

 So no Aaron Judge or long term deal for DeGrom. Turner etc, not likely but not out of the question. Ninmo, Senga, etc, more likely.

And depending on the sale timeline, it could make the team more attractive. Might not raise the value per se, but could attract another bidder or two if the team is built well and starts well.

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[Angelsfan1984]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

And depending on the sale timeline, it could make the team more attractive. Might not raise the value per se, but could attract another bidder or two if the team is built well and starts well.

Not according to some here. Arte is better off selling a hooptie. People always love spending billions on dumpster fires. Just ask Elon .

[totdprods]

6 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Not according to some here. Arte is better off selling a hooptie. People always love spending billions on dumpster fires. Just ask Elon .

Who is Elon 

[Angelsfan1984]

3 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Who is Elon 

[totdprods]

Oh. That guy.